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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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it resembles a "spade guinea", which I find to be the least attractive coin of that era. However, it doesn't seem to be gold; AND the legend is a bit off; so I'd say that it's a "gaming token".
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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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Following a bit of searching, and with thanks to an old friend, I've come up with William Charles Bagnall & Co., token makers, engravers, etc., of 16 Hockley Street, Birmingham (England).
It is probably brass.
Bill.
Edited by bilnic 07/29/2011 8:24 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I don't think it is best termed as 'fake'.
Probably better described as 'imitation'.
George 111 imitation brass guineas were made in industrial quantities as gambling chips.
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Valued Member
United States
321 Posts |
Looks like a game token to me. I have a bunch of George III and Victorian game tokens. The faces don't look "normal" so they were not confused with coins. However, this should sell at "token price"- $5-$10 max IMO.
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Valued Member
France
130 Posts |
Yes GIII Brass Gaming tokens. And they came in a number of varieties. Here's a few I quickly sorted - some are not of that era. 
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Valued Member
France
130 Posts |
One of the favourite hobbies of the lowly, taking the mickey out of the hoy palloy :)
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Valued Member
France
130 Posts |
Oops, yes got that the wrong way round, difficult to think and type with a glass in your hand :)
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Valued Member
France
130 Posts |
Not even obverse about reverse, I shall try again. The masses (hoi polloi) and the merchant classes were having a crack at the crachy. Now that should confuse you all! :))
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Valued Member
France
130 Posts |
And some Victorian gaming tokens 
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Valued Member
France
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I'd say so, the first has been braceletted, sadly.
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Valued Member
France
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And the royals were all intra-related. Did I say I was a Welsh Republican?
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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@ redwine "Ei bendith ar ei ben"
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
As a kid, I saw a few of these brass gaming chips. My dad explained to me what they were. Although I was intrigued by these items, I also thought 'Perhaps one day I may be able to get a real gold one!'
I finally did get a real gold George 111 Spade Guinea of 1791 a few years ago.
These coins are important to early Australian numismatic history. The Guinea is mentioned as legal tender in a Proclamation of Governor Philip Gidley King, in the early history of the New South Wales Penal Colony.
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New Member
Australia
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We have one of these G111 but with different writing on the back. It has G.Y.I.E.T.F.REX.S.UF.ST.DST.M.SET So do we still have a gaming token?
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