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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts t_y...
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So ,if I want to sell my coins at retail price on ebay, that's a good way to use ICCS. Thanks a bunch guys, great info t_y! |
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Let collectors choose what they like and whom they believe in. Many posters here are old in tooth and have long experience with the hobby. As I've said before I do have quibbles about variety identification with ICCS but for grading standards I have no concerns. Have I seen as many coins as most in here? You bet. Have I sold as many coins as many in here? You bet. I enjoy acquiring and selling and I'm happy with both ICCS and CCCS. Choose the one you want.
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(Note: last year I decided not to post in this board again because I had 2 harmless posts deleted without any explanation. I am posting again because of the importance of this issue. In fact, this is one more battle in the war between the aristocracy of the collecting community and the collectors base. Guess in what side I am ...)
It is a shame, t_y, that one of your wisdom and accomplishments should choose not to see the reality of what you believe was "harmless post deletion." We do not delete posts, and here's proof - Admin's response to your original claim, from June 29th, 2010, in a thread which is no longer available for public viewing: Quote:
This guy is saying a post of his was deleted by the Staff that was reprimanding a new member for posting in all caps.
I thought it was odd that I couldn't find the post anywhere since we don't delete anything, we just remove it from public view so if someone says "I never said that" we still have the post.
Since I found it so odd, I just spent an hour going through the site logs and found the deletion. Don't know if it was an accident or on purpose but he deleted it himself.
Also, they posted a link to this topic with some goofy characters on the end, and they're mad because they think we deleted this one too since it won't come up.
You are welcome here at Coin Community, t_y, but like any member you will not be allowed to cast unfounded aspersions on the staff. |
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@TY...where do you post now that you are avoiding this site? Clearly not the CCRS...since no one posts there any more...but is there another forum that is hot for Canadian coin discussion these days?
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Somewhere in Canada, the world's smallest violin is being played. Nice, now why don't you slap that modified quote from Theodore Moses Tobani into a nice ICCS slab and say something constructive. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Do you always throw out personal digs when someone has a differing opinion? Stick to numismatics and the facts. Quote:
It takes 2 minutes to set up an email, and a few hours to setup a website. For the business ICCS is in (since 1986?), it is simply unacceptable for it to have no email and no website. . Unacceptable to whom? Not every business registered in Canada requires a website. Don't support that business if you don't like how they operate. They are accountable only to the Canada Revenue Agency, their customers vote with their wallets. Eventually, their business model should be their downfall, but blame the dealers for keeping the status quo, not ICCS. Quote:
Part of the problem is dealers, and people like you, who will find excuses and attack those who would like to change it. People like me? What excuses and attacks are you referring to? What exactly are you trying to change? One more question, who is painting with a broad brush now? To use your own words, 'You don't know me'. I am probably one of the harshest critics of ICCS grading over the past three years and I have even conducted experiments with their grading. That does not mean I have lost respect for Brian and what ICCS has done for our hobby in the first 20 years ICCS has been around. The net result is that I have chosen another TPG to slab my coins, probably more so for the protection of my coins rather than an opinion of grade. ICCS will not change. It is up to you to decide how to protect your collection or investment, however you see it... Quote:
You dont know me. What I have done, or what I will do You are correct. That is why I asked. Quote:
Stick around darling... Don't EVER call me 'darling'. You have certainly not earned the right to do so, and this forum is not a place for responses like that. If you want to debate, fine, then do it with some tact. All I said was that I found your comment that ICCS " ...keep showing the numismatic community the middle finger" was a bit extreme, considering all that Brian Cornwall (who WAS ICCS for 20+ years) has done for Canadian numismatics.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
Edited by SPP-Ottawa
08/07/2011 11:27 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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A big thank you t_y from this murrican (that be south of the border) for the general insight and facts about ICCS. I think it was a balanced presentation, giving me a better field of view as I enter Canadian numismatics.
Cheers,
KK
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Pillar of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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What irony? No one said that coin is important.
Its priced to "not sell" ;).
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No one said that coin is important. If your description doesn't scream important, I'll eat my hat. You're busted. Live with it or squirm and backpedal, makes me no never mind. Quote:
Canada 25 cents - 1936 dot bar - ICCS EF40.
This is the absolute RAREST of all Canadian quarters, much rarer than the 1906 small crown quarter.
As of 2011 ICCS population report, only 4 are known. It is rarer than the 1936 dot dime, and of equivalent historical significance.
This one, is THE highest graded of all known 4 examples.
If unsold, this will be featured in the 2012 TOREX auction. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Blah blah blah...
I was not the one who made this statement...."THERE ARE NO IMPORTANT CANADIAN COINS on ICCS flips"...
LOL...you should go back to the start of the thread and read it over :)....
I said that the most important collectors of Canadian coins (Belzberg, Pittman, Norweb, etc)...did NOT entrust their coins with ICCS. :)
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Moderator
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There are a few coins still in ICCS holders (like the 1921 50c in MS-65 that a former CCF member told us about). Many of the top coins in the ICCS Population Report are cross-graded or no longer reside in said flips; collectors (myself included) who cut their coins out of ICCS flips tend to keep the sealed ICCS certificate with their new hard slabs.
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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Pillar of the Community
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 On July 29, 2011 @ 14:26 hrs., on a thread initiated by danlos9551, titled "ICCS grading-when coins get leprosy", he wrote the following statement: "I think if anyone has ICCS coins in their collection that are worth over $300, you should have your head (or coins) examined." So my question to danlos is: When is your doctor's appointment? Glenn  Edited by glenzy1
08/08/2011 11:33 am
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Administrator
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This topic has run it's course.
This final post will serve as a serious warning shot. If you feel it is directed at you, then it likely is.
We will not tolerate personal attacks and posts obviously designed to pick a fight. 90% of these types of posts are in the Canadian section. I'm guessing it's because other Canadian forums tolerate this behavior. We do not.
It will stop one way or another. Either by voluntary attitude adjustments, or member ejections. The choice is entirely up to each member.
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