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Pillar of the Community
United States
830 Posts |
I just heard a gold trader on CNBC talking about 1700 as a support level, below that he said 1580. He was hoping for 1700 to hold by the end of the week. I still like the "Gold game plan" here: http://lewrockwell.com/spl3/is-gold...incible.htmlBut according to the game plan this correction may have a way to go.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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With all the mechanical trading going on these days, I don't see how anyone can keep track of the ups and downs. Not to mention all the 'experts' and their various opinions of what's going on. "It's a correction, it's a crash, it will go down to $1500, it will go up to $2000". It's dizzying! 
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New Member
United States
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Quote: With all the mechanical trading going on these days, I don't see how anyone can keep track of the ups and downs. Not to mention all the 'experts' and their various opinions of what's going on. "It's a correction, it's a crash, it will go down to $1500, it will go up to $2000". It's dizzying! Sounds like the markets are "talking" themselves into a correction. Just trying to imagine all the people who bought an ounce of silver at 78 dollars + shipping in full anticipation that it would hit 200 by the end of next week. LOL! I guess a bunch of people are unloading.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I don't know that is why I don't bet the entire farm on PM's. A wise decision in any case. Diversification is one of the few ways to protect our assets from sudden market corrections. In most cases, there will be some ups and some downs that help moderate what is happening. Only in some very rare cases, such as in 2008, do we see everything go up or down at the same time. Quote: I bet it would sound something like, "Gotta get re-elected. Gotta get re-elected. Gotta get re-elected." No doubt... but the interesting part would be the conniving, bribery, and outright back-stabbery that would be going on at the same time!  Quote: With all the mechanical trading going on these days, I don't see how anyone can keep track of the ups and downs. That's just it, Jack... we can't. The best analogy I've heard on this lately is that "the small investor is like a boxer who has been punched in the head too many times". We're still on our feet but are dizzy and sick. We've been hit so many times and from so many different directions that we do not know where the next blow is coming from. Many of us have left the market in the hope that it will settle down at some point and become at least semi-understandable. No luck so far, though. A lot will hinge on the Jackson Hole commentary this week. Much is expected from Bernanke and the recent stock rally shows that many of the traders and speculators are thinking that QE3, in one form or another, is coming and will be announced on Friday. If it is, there will be a big rally in the soon-to-be-inflated paper products markets and PMs will take a big hit. If not, then the reverse will occur. I have no idea which way it will go. Pessimists see QE3 coming and optimists see an improving economy that does not need any additional boost from the Fed. I must be somewhere in between those but am perhaps leaning slightly towards pessimism.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
830 Posts |
I'm thinking PMs will rebound even more if there is a QE3 comment Fri. I mean PM's did well during QE2 didn't they? I think either way PMs will rebound and move to new highs in the mid to long term. I'm not betting on QE3 now, but I think its the only way to pay debts long term. Especially if bond rates start moving up (they can't get any lower), the interest on 15 going on 17 trillion debt could get huge real fast.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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The economy is much like a game of chess or painting yourself into a corner. A series of bad moves mean severe cutbacks like haven't been seen by at least two generations (losing the queen and a rook), or finding yourself in a series of checks and eventual mate.
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Valued Member
 United States
362 Posts |
I think once silver hits 37$ I am going to buy some more. I am unsure about gold though. Its tough though, since I'm in college, my preffered dealer is in my hometown, not where I am. He charges a 5% premium on all gold bullion, and that's it, I haven't found better prices anywhere.
He also sells 90% silver at spot, or a tad under, I have trouble doin business anywhere else, lol
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I mean PM's did well during QE2 didn't they? Yes, they did... and so did a lot of stocks. The problem with this is that the paper assets responded to an artificial stimulus by rising to absorb the huge amount of money injected into the economy. Once that stimulus ended, so did the market gains. In fact, the market could not sustain the level to which it had risen and fell back nearly 2000 points. Quote: The economy is much like a game of chess... Yes, it is. But it also has elements of roulette and poker. 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The other issue this time around is the awful conditions in Europe. With QE2 the dollar dropped almost everyday against the Euro,which is partly what it was intended to do. I don't believe we will see the same king of drop with QE3 because the Euro is the uglier of the 2 sisters. I think PMs will have a healthy gain but the dollar drop will not be as dramatic. I am not convinced we will see QE3 yet. I think we will have to hit Dow 10,000 first because the inflation that will come with QE3 is the big fear. It will not be implemented until everyone is screaming uncle. Interesting times ahead!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4008 Posts |
Interesting times, indeed, Hock. Say, isn't that an ancient Chinese curse? Something like, "May you live in interesting times", or some such.
My thought is that Fed-induced inflation caused the stock market to rise. When the Fed stopped inflating, the market could not hold the level that it had achieved via inflation and fell back about 1600 or so points. Maybe that taught the bean counters at the Fed something? I am sure that they have not given up on their Keynesian voodoo economics but I suspect that they will be much more reticent about commenting on it in public. I think it likely that there will be Fed support for the economy and that it will be similar to the QE programs. Because of that, stocks will inflate and the market will rise to a higher level.
I will be buying back into the market in select areas in an attempt to capture profits from this inflation. Commodities, especially energy and agriculture, resource exporting country currencies, stocks, and bonds, and good mutual funds that invest in Latin America and Asia (excluding Japan) look good to me about now. I also like the big cap US dividend-paying stocks and the mutual funds that focus on dividends.
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Rest in Peace
United States
9104 Posts |
QE3 will happen. Not a question of if, just when.
Conditions in Yurrup have sucked all along.
If the dollar has lost 10% of its purchasing power, why does it take ten times as many of them to buy an ounce of gold or silver?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
830 Posts |
I'm long GLD, SLV, SDS, XLE, DBA, DBC, EWA, EWC, USL, SCHE, oil & nat gas in the ground, real estate (home), and physical PMs. GLD and SLV are currently hedged with Sept put options. No debt, enough in cash to pay the bills.
Edited by GoThunder 08/26/2011 6:16 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Yes, it is. But it also has elements of roulette and poker. Yes, but it's russian roulette and strip poker. And the ones playing strip poker are the good ole boys. In the first, there's only one winner...and in the second, he who see's no evil wins.
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Valued Member
United States
52 Posts |
Finally, what happens next is anybody's call...but hoarding at specific numbers seems somewhat foolish.
Nobody can predict if we are going to go back to $6 silver and $600 gold (unlikely) or if it's going to keep skyrocketing...but my weekly PM spending has been the same regardless. I get whatever I can, if it's an eagle and a few dimes, it's an eagle and a few tims...if it's all dimes, it's all dimes. Regardless, it goes in to a box that I don't open unless I need to put more in.
I am personally not a favor of electronic gold...simply because it doesn't take much for records to get lost, or communications systems to go down. What I have in my posession, is always in my posession. What I have in an account, is just that, in an account, where I can't access it without infrastructure.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: If the dollar has lost 10% of its purchasing power, why does it take ten times as many of them to buy an ounce of gold or silver? No problem, Fredd. You just have to cherry-pick the right time periods for this to work out. The gubmint types are pretty good at that.  Quote: I am personally not a favor of electronic gold...simply because it doesn't take much for records to get lost, or communications systems to go down. What I have in my posession, is always in my posession. What I have in an account, is just that, in an account, where I can't access it without infrastructure. Different strokes for different folks and all that. There's room in a well diversified portfolio for all kinds of investments, including gold and silver ETFs. I like them because: I can hold them in my IRAs... including my Roth... and I can buy / sell them with a few mouse clicks, virtually instantly. I can also put trailing stops on them for some downside protection. They do not replace my physical holdings but they do augment them. 
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