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Are There Any 'Impossible' Series In US Coins?

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 Posted 09/05/2011  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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I question whether certain coins really count as being part of the series. Things like the 1933 St. Gaudins, 1913 Libery Nickel, or the 1804 dollar were never intended for circulation (the 1913 Liberty wasn't even authorized to be made at all). So I think you could have a complete set of those series without having coins like that in the collection.

OK keeping it to just actually made for circulation the stopper is probably the large diameter capped bust half eagle. It's a short set, only made from 1813 to 1829. Ignoring varieties (So you don't need the 1828/7 with only 5 known, or the 1825/4 with only 2 known) there are only 13 coins in the set and every one of them was made for circulation. But you still need the 1815 and there are only 4 known ( RedBook says 4, Coinfacts lists 11, but it looks like so of the pedigrees may be questionable and it could be a few as 7. At least five appearances on the market in be last twenty years though.) Then there is the real stopper the 1822, only three known and two of those permanently impounded in the Smithsonian The other has been off the market for almost thirty years. I don't know who owns the third one. Bass didn't buy the Eliasberg coin when it sold in 82. But that is probably about the closest you're going to get to an impossible set.
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 Posted 09/05/2011  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matchbox to your friends list
The five 1913 Liberty nickels weren't an official coin minted with the authority of the US Mint so I don't consider them part of a series.

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It is pretty tough to come across an 1854-S Quarter Eagle unless your family just happens to have descended from a Chinese laborer who saved his first Gold Rush wage. It had a microscopic official mintage of 246 with around 10 known survivors.
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 Posted 06/30/2012  07:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StashTreasure to your friends list

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i dont think any series would be impossible to complete. lets say there is one date/mint mark/variety that is impossible to get ahold of. then it wouldnt exist. in that case it wouldnt be part of the series. sure, some unique pieces exist that reside in the Smithsonian or other museums, but it is possible for someone to make a deal with the museum for something more desirable to showcase, or simply break in and steal it.


Hmm I wonder what the Smithsonian would trade for the missing remains of a few presidents
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 Posted 06/30/2012  07:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dooly to your friends list
Shield nickels 1868 Obv hub A Rev Hub IIC and 1870 Obv Hub A Rev Hub IIA
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 Posted 06/30/2012  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Silver Searcher to your friends list
I think it is doable, but you would need at least a billion dollars and about fifty years.....

Why doesn't Bill Gates collect coins?!?!
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 Posted 06/30/2012  1:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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The five 1913 Liberty nickels weren't an official coin minted with the authority of the US Mint so I don't consider them part of a series.

Tell that to Whitman. At one time they were making Folders with a slot for those.
So far no one has mentioned the 1974 Aluminum Cent. Anyone have a roll of those?
The original post about a completed set is all in what someone wants to say is complete. If all the error and varieties are to be included, then that would possibly be the inpossible one. Since no one really knows how many different varieties of errors and types really exist.
And we all are just going by reports written by different people and again, they too don't know what the Mint may or may not have actually produced. For all anyone knows there may have been many, many coins made for a series, not put into circulation, so are they real or what?
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 Posted 06/30/2012  4:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SaintRidley to your friends list

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Tell that to Whitman. At one time they were making Folders with a slot for those.


I have one of those folders. Still mentions that there are only five of them.
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 Posted 06/30/2012  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CrazyCat to your friends list
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the 1943-S copper cent. Only 2 specimens are known so far, if I'm not mistaken.

Maybe this thread should be about ridiculously rare coins instead of those that are literally impossible to obtain like the original post said.
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 Posted 06/30/2012  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Seated Liberty Dimes. The 1873-CC no arrows is unique (1 only). Louis E. Eliasberg, Sr. had one which I think is coming up on the auction block. Coin World just did a big write up on this coin.
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 Posted 07/01/2012  05:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add StashTreasure to your friends list
Maybee we should pull together toform the "Impossible series in US coins fund" to buy them lol
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 Posted 07/01/2012  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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I'm surprised nobody's mentioned the 1943-S copper cent. Only 2 specimens are known so far, if I'm not mistaken.

There are several 43-S copper cents. The 43-D on the other hand is still unique. But those are individual coins not a series and they are not normally collected as part of the series either.
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 Posted 07/01/2012  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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I have one of those folders. Still mentions that there are only five of them.

And yet I've got an entire roll of those.

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There are several 43-S copper cents. The 43-D on the other hand is still unique. But those are individual coins not a series and they are not normally collected as part of the series either.

AND if you want to include all the different types of platings on those 43 Cents, that alone could start a whole new series. Naturally that would have to include the 44, 44D, 44S Steel if they exist.
The problem with those types are they should not ever be considered part of a real series. If they were, then someone would have to find out exactly how many other mistakes the Mint has made and include those too.
I just think a completed series is one of each type made as real coins. Not errors, not varieties, not possible ones we don't know about, etc.
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 Posted 07/04/2012  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gothic Florin to your friends list
The 1876 CC 20 cent piece makes the 20 cent set almost impossible due it's rarity and high price tag.
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 Posted 07/06/2012  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list
Somewhere I saw (and downloaded just for fun) the "millionaire's checklist" for US cents, I believe it was.

It's neat to have a list of these rare things, even if owning them is impossible!
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