Fake China Silver

biggfredd is right. Unfortunately think of this. There well may be thousands of members here on this forum. How many do you think would spend any time complaining to ebay? And with virtaully millions of people, all over the world using ebay, what percentage would ever even know of our futile attempts. IF, and that is a big IF, you could get every member of every coin forum on the internet to complain to ebay about forgeries, do you really think they would listen or care?
Like most buisnesses, ebay just laughs all the way to the bank.

To be fair, "German silver" is not real silver either. Both terms are well-known in the jewelry trade--ultimately the issue is one of quality, not exact terminology.

that ebay needs to take more ownership for the abusers of their site. Something for coin collectors to consider is that counterfeit coins are a minor subset of a much larger problem: ie the trafficking of fake/forged "luxury goods", which includes fashion items, watches, gemstones, etc. Conceivably, ebay could run an office of 100+ people who did nothing more than familiarize themselves with specific (genuine) retail niches and their respective forgeries. To their credit, ebay has teamed up with manufacturers to root out fakes on their site. I know, because I was involved in a sting involving Swiss watch forgeries a few years ago, something which ebay could not accomplish on their own.

A lot is said about the Chinese creating a "counterfeiting problem" when the reality is...this is has been an aspect of business in Asia since Roman times. It's simply more glaring today due to China's growing manufacturing capacity. Yet, from long ago, people have come to the region looking for "bargains" on items of value. Many westerners are simply greedy, supposing the locals don't know what they're selling, and become easy marks for opportunistic sellers to profit from their ignorance/arrogance. Here is a classic example.

I would suggest the trade of counterfeit coins on ebay isn't all that different. Ultimately, people need to educate themselves, and if something looks too good to be true, then it probably is--stop kidding yourself!

I would think that would be violation, like "not Ford, not Chevy."

I have about 40 of these in my inbox on ebay. I spent 30 min reporting counterfeit coins.


Dear ,

Thanks for reporting this listing to us.

I investigated this listing and confirmed that it violated our Selling
Currency policy. As a result, I removed the listing.

Again, thank you for your report. We appreciate your help in keeping
ebay a safe and reputable forum to conduct business.

Sincerely,

Judith
ebay Customer Support

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Message: another group of counterfeit Chinese coin that contain little
to no silver. not the 30-40% claimed

What is NARU?

How?

By all of us leaving ebay and selling on ccf!

The influx of fakes from China extends to not only Silver coins I'm afraid.

This guy seems to be selling fake French brass 50 Francs. Not sure why as they are not that valuable - maybe they mistook them for a valuable coin? This is, of course, listed with a plethora of fake "silver" coins. While this particular auction - or set of auctions -is labelled as copy - fair enough - I just wish they wern't so many around.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Replica-195...em3a6dab48d2

If I were Tibetan and I saw where the Germans could their copper nickel stuff called German Silver, I'd want to create an alloy and call it Tibetan Silver, too.