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1960 D Lincoln Small Date?

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 Posted 09/20/2011  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
I couldn't agree more, the 70-S small date makes for a pretty cheap education. If you're searching/collecting Lincolns, just buy one so you never have to ask again.
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 Posted 09/20/2011  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pman860507 to your friends list
i agree with murrellington I know what to look for with the 1970-s but with the 1960 I really have no idea. so when ever I come across one I just pile them up until have figure it out.
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 Posted 09/20/2011  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I couldn't agree more, the 70-S small date makes for a pretty cheap education. If you're searching/collecting Lincolns, just buy one so you never have to ask again.
I agree. Photos have limitations because of their two dimensional nature. Once you see them both in hand, you will wonder why it seemed so difficult to begin with. It is like figuring out a puzzle and never forgetting how to do it again.
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 Posted 09/20/2011  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list
The 1960 small date is easy because both versions of 1960-D are common, so you just have to collect a handful to guarantee that you have one of each style to compare. Side-by-side the difference is huge. It's easier to look for the scarce one with coins in hand to tell them apart.
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 Posted 09/20/2011  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakeman406 to your friends list
I argee that the 1970 s small date is harder to tell then the 1960 small date/large date . But the 1970 s small date is thicker then the 1970 s large date
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 Posted 09/20/2011  8:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list
I would have to disagree that the LD and SD 1960-D are equally common. I went back through all of my 1960s to double check that I didn't manage to snag a '60 large date (I didn't), and I found only 2 '60-D small dates to 84 '60-D large dates.

Maybe people are hoarding them?
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 Posted 09/20/2011  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list

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I would have to disagree that the LD and SD 1960-D are equally common. I went back through all of my 1960s to double check that I didn't manage to snag a '60 large date (I didn't), and I found only 2 '60-D small dates to 84 '60-D large dates.


Still statistically a very small sample, and just from one area to be making sweeping statements such as this. Perhaps other areas would have distribution patterns differently?

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 Posted 09/21/2011  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add perfessor to your friends list
I believe the 1960d small date is fairly common, but still less than the large date. Back in the early 60's (before I cared about it), a lot of people were buying rolls of coins and the small dates for nice premiums. I don't think this is true anymore. But it is still fun to find a small date anyway, especially in uncirculated. And side by side comparison is the best way to go. I don't think the 1960 small dates are easy to spot without a comparison.

I wish it was easy to find 1970s cents in circulation in the Eastern US. Murrelington, I am jealous. I have never found a 1970s small date (but I don't roll search pennies very often).
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 Posted 09/21/2011  02:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list

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I wish it was easy to find 1970s cents in circulation in the Eastern US.


I have just finished searching through three bank boxes of pennies. I have kept all "S" cents since they are relatively rare here in central Ohio. Encouraged by this thread, I just dug them up to take a closer look, and I have a total of 9 1970-S Lincolns, and 2 or them appear to be small date, after comparing mine to the comparison photos in another thread here... I'll be posting photos over in the searching Lincoln rolls thread soon.

Could I have really gotten this lucky to found two of these? They have the "high 7" and non pointing down 9 too.

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 Posted 09/21/2011  03:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murrellington to your friends list
merclover, if 2 of your 1970 s are small date then that is real good. Out of 30 or so boxes I have about 150 to 200 1970 s and only 1 is a small date. I know for a fact that none of the others are. I hope you do have 2 small dates but don't get your hopes up too high. can't wait to see pictures.
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 Posted 09/21/2011  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
What I always wonder is just who are the people that see these differences in the first place. I can easily see how people could spot the differences in the 82 large and small, but the 60's and 70's, someone just has great eyesight. Naturally if you sit down and stare at those two differnt types it slowly becomes apparant but just who did that originally to even notice? When you think about the millions and possibly billions of cents you pass on in your life, how does anyone stop to see something like that?
I've got many of both types of 60's and 70's and unless I get out the magnifyer, it's all a guess but that is possibly just old age.
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 Posted 09/21/2011  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list

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I've got many of both types of 60's and 70's and unless I get out the magnifyer, it's all a guess...


Just Carl, you are absolutely correct! It's amazing anyone found these in the first place as you said. I only knew from threads here and many fine comparison photos presented here. Another fine testament as to the quality and high level of knowledge here on CCF, and I'm thrilled to be part of the community!

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 Posted 09/21/2011  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list
No question: the 1960-D small date is less common than the large date. However, the 1960 (Philly) small date is rarer still.

(I'm a little surprised the 1960-D small date doesn't command much premium over face value, even in Mint State.)
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 Posted 09/21/2011  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GTALLEN to your friends list
1 cent nets about 60 cents profit on ebay. That is after all the charges, listing, shipping, store, final value, etc, etc, etc.....


Denver (large date) : 1,580,884,000
percentage of circulation : 1.1%

Denver (small date) :
mintage included in figure above
percentage of circulation : 0.82%


"There are over 175 different classifications of 1960 cents, one of the highest totals of any single year. This includes both business strike and proof issues of large and small date coins, repunched mint marks, and doubled dies.
1960 tends to be a date in Lincoln cents which exhibits a large number of die breaks, more commonly (and incorrectly) called "clogged letters and numbers". Very little if any premium value should be expected for coins with these anomalies
."*



*www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/dateguide.php?date=1960
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 Posted 09/22/2011  7:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bibd to your friends list

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(large date)... percentage of circulation : 1.1%
(small date)... percentage of circulation : 0.82%


I doubt it. Is this based on a search, or mintage figures (which nobody seems to know)?

According to an estimate of Spadone, the mintage for 1960-D small date is 70 million, as compared with 1.5 billion for the large date.

Similar estimates claim only 700,000 for the 1960 small date.
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