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Hours Of Searching And Still No Idea | Thailand Medal

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 Posted 09/29/2011  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list

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The date is represented by the four figures directly above the riders head.


That means it's "1247" which translates to 1885.
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 Posted 09/29/2011  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
On the reverse, there are three numbers are above the elephant: 1239, 1247 and 1249. If these are dates in the Chulasakarat calendar, then they could be references to times during the reign of Chulalongkorn (1877, 1885 and 1887). But I'm not sure exactly what.
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 Posted 09/30/2011  12:27 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list

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GO, is there anywhere I can find that information? It's a really cool "token."
The only information you will find is about the ruler and other coins that dipicted him. As for the token. I only found one other instance but it was a dead end.

Where did you get it?
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 Posted 09/30/2011  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozerman to your friends list
My grandfather left me his coin collection and aside from U.S. coins there were pounds of random foreign coins that I'm still identifying.
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 Posted 09/30/2011  12:57 am  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list

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there were pounds of random foreign coins that I'm still identifying.

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 Posted 09/30/2011  06:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thai-vic to your friends list
Hi ozerman

It's a medallion to commemorate three separate actions against French incursions in an area called Parhp Haw (a phonetic rendering) - the wording before the dates on the reverse.

The area is in the north east bordering Laos, in Nong Khai district. Siam (as Thailand was then called) eventually ceded its lands north of the Mekong River to the French who then created French-Indo China. This defeat prompted King Chulalongkorn to modernise the army.

The translation is thanks to my wife who says that her father heard stories (and mentioned it to her) of these actions when he was in the army. He apparently did his service in the same area. This thread has piqued her interest so she's going to do some further digging.

There is a similar medallion on sale on a Thai site and it's $20. Yours would certainly be of interest to some older Thai soldiers. They will often encase them in a gold glass-fronted locket and wear them as a good luck charm.
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 Posted 09/30/2011  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozerman to your friends list
thai-vic, Thanks for an incredible answer. Do you happen to have a link to the auction?
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 Posted 10/01/2011  06:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thai-vic to your friends list
Couldn't relocate the site mentioned in my original reply (it was in Thai but my wife is away for a few days) but have come across another one.
It's your medallion exactly but it's for $1,000! It is however wrongly described as a coin and as Rama VI. Because the seller is located in Bangkok one would have thought that the description would be more precise.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Coin-King-R...em336c8e3bf3

I'm not an expert on these so I really don't know if it is worth that much but if it was for sale in Thailand that's about 30,000 Baht, Whether anyone would pay that for it here I just don't know. I'd just wait and see how that particular auction plays out.
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 Posted 10/02/2011  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add googoo to your friends list
very, very cool token
Definitely a cool piece to hold onto
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 Posted 10/03/2011  01:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozerman to your friends list
Definitely keeping my eye on this.
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 Posted 10/12/2011  05:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinsnpaper to your friends list
Chulalongkorn was the first "Modern" king of Thailand. He ws the son of the King in the "Anna and the King of Siam" book and movie.
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 Posted 10/12/2011  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmorgan22 to your friends list
Hi ozerman,

I actually have the same medal that you have. Unfortunately the ones that we have are replicas. I have done my research on this for hours as well. The actual hubs and dies for this medal were sold at a heritage auction on January 8th, 2007 herefor $6037.50 USD. Click on the pics at the bottom of the heritage link for high resolution images. If you exam these hubs and dies, you will find that things are different on your medal than on the actual hubs/dies. For instance, look at the reins on the elephant, on the real die they extend past the elephant under his neck, yours do not. Also look at the saddle on the elephant, the one that you have has a diamond pattern while the original one has a shield/crest. Not sure what the replica price is for this, but the one that Thai-vic is talking about may or may not be a replica, I don't know. If I could sell mine for $20 I would be happy though.
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 Posted 10/12/2011  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmorgan22 to your friends list
Note: You must sign in to heritage to view the larger pics. You can sign up for free. It's a great reference source.
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 Posted 10/12/2011  1:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Wow...some really great info Thai-Vic!
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 Posted 10/12/2011  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozerman to your friends list
Thanks mmorgan
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