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Ship And Eagle: Seen It Before

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 Posted 04/05/2016  6:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I found this medal and I am sure I have seen it somewhere.
Help please.
diam: 26,8mm
looks gold plated
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 Posted 04/06/2016  8:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@petrus, sorry but I've got nothing. Looked a while on Google, ebay, and CCF, but nothing is even close. The eagle looks vaugely Germanic or perhaps Prussian, but otherwise there just isn't anything to go on. The edge isn't marked with additonal info is it?
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 Posted 04/07/2016  06:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petrus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks spence.
I did also some search, but found nothing.
But I did find these:
Looks like a polish eagle. But the stars are strange in the combination with the eagle and ship.
http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces17634.html
https://www.NGCcoin.com/price-guide...-duid-129956
http://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces8101.html
http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collec...s/39671.html
But the sailing ship here has no 3 masts
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@pet, its been ten years since you posted this and while I can't add an attribution, I can at the very least point to another one of these things out on the market. Here is a link to the French eBaty sale, along with a couple pics to help you compare this well-worn piece to yours. Unfortunately this seller doesn't seem to know the origin either so the search continues.


https://www.ebay.fr/itm/175785440730


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That eagle, with that triple-pointed "republic" crown, is definitely Polish and it's official use by Poland is definitely limited to two time periods: the "Second Republic" 1918-1939 and "Third Republic" (1989-present). On that basis, these medals cannot be older than 1918. I'd also suspect they are older than 1989, making them either a Second Republic era souvenir or a product of the Polish diaspora during the Nazi and Communist periods.

As for the sailing ship, I have a suggestion that might fit this time period. The Polish Navy training ship Dar Pomorza did a round-the-world tour in 1934-35, the first time a Polish naval vessel had ever made such a voyage and for many places the first time a Polish ship had ever visited those ports. Now, a single sailing ship doing a world tour may seem like a fairly small deal to countries such as the US, which sent an entire Great White Fleet of battleships out on world tours at around the same time, but it seems to have been somewhat of a source of national pride for Poland - to the extent that the ship was featured on the 2 zlote and 5 zlotych circulating commemorative coins of 1936.

So these crude little medals may have been souvenirs made for sale to visitors of the ship at one of their ports of call. If one of these medals turned up in Belgium and the other in France, I'd presume it was from a visit of this ship to a port somewhere in that part of Europe.
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