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FVRIVS RVFVS Pillar of the Community United States 3480 Posts	Posted 08/23/2026 7:26 pm Never had much confidence in my Ptolemaic attributions Æ Ptolemy IV Obv Zeus Ammon right Rv ΠTOΛEMAIOY BAΣIΛEΩΣ Eagle wings spread standing left on Thunderbolt 41.84 grams 38mm Low relief style portrait I have several Ptolemy bronzes But this one is quite different Thinking it came out of some other mint than Alexandria ? Tyre perhaps ?... no control marks in field The monogram is difficult to read A Delta perhaps ? Retrograde PΠΥE ? Edited by FVRIVS RVFVS 08/23/2026 7:55 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Spence Moderator United States 34530 Posts	Posted 08/23/2026 9:41 pm An interesting piece @fvr. Both sides seem to have pretty significant doubling. "If you climb a good tree, you get a push." -----Ghanaian proverb "The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed." -----King Adz Report this Post to the Staff
FVRIVS RVFVS Pillar of the Community United States 3480 Posts	Posted 08/25/2026 08:52 am I believe I may have 'cracked' this nut ! The possibility that it is a "contemporary imitation" was always front center in my addled brain . But searching this AM through the Ptolemy AE Project I spied this curious piece Svoronos 1140 The diameter is spot on at 38mm While the weight is a tad light at 3.22 grams But the control is given as PΠΥE 'retrograde' ! Yet the illustration shows not ? Same low relief Same lack of a mint symbol Same diameter Only thing amiss is the weight being 3.22 grams light Well 3 out of 4 eh ? Report this Post to the Staff
FVRIVS RVFVS Pillar of the Community United States 3480 Posts	Posted 08/25/2026 09:07 am Sometimes the obvious is difficult to discern . Plainly we have what NGC loves to describe as a "flan flaw" This could easily account for a missing 3.22 grams At this point I think I'll score it perfect 4 out of 4 Or 5 for 5 counting the retrograde control . Report this Post to the Staff
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