1969-S Lincoln Penny - Floating Roof And Weak FG - Opinions Please

I also agree with jbuck that it is not a variety and would be a good idea to keep one as an example for reference -


Petespockets55,
I always am trying to learn but I have some questions.
Are you saying that every different year and mm that has this over die polishing are each individually separate varieties? as far as I know these occur from the mid 60s to early 70s. Maybe outside of that range as well.

If the answer is yes, where can I find listings of these many variety listings so that I may identify them properly? I would assume that every die pair that has this issue would be a separate variety?




By this broad definition would every cent that has a die chip, gouge, or crack also be considered a separate variety? That just does not seem right. I recently sent in a 1969S LMC that I thought might be a new DDR variety to an attributor that you all know. I was told it was just a die gouge and not a variety. Please help me understand your position more clearly.

First, even if such a list were to exist it would not be determinative. In other words, just because someone says so doesn't make it so.

All the major variety sites have disagreements between themselves for that very reason. There are RPMs and doubled dies on Wexler that are not on VV for instance because of disputes on the status of the variety. Does that make one site right and the other wrong? In fact, if you stick around the hobby long enough you'll see examples of disagreements of this type getting resolved by consensus.

Second, the three legged and the two feather Buffalo nickel varieties were created by the exact same process as all the floating roof varieties so you cannot logically exclude one from the definition and include the others.

I agree with PP that this makes every over polished die technically meet the definition of a variety but it doesn't impart desirability to the variety, and variety and desirability are what determine value, not just the definition applied.

If someone wanted to create such a list (and it wouldn't surprise me if there was a collector willing to try) it would be an interesting documentation process, but it wouldn't necessarily do anything to change the desirability of those varieties.

The hobby operates not by fiat but by consensus generally, which is what makes it so attractive. The apparent removal of the "FS" designation from the 1969 D variety is an an expression of the consensus of the hobby as to it's desirability and value and not to the applicability of the definition.