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Valued Member
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I like to label my collection properly, and the differing opinions in the replies leave me confused. From what I gather, the only ways to differentiate PL from business strike is a lack of marks (or bag marks) on PL coins and how spectacular they look (or lack thereof). What about PL coins that have been banged around in bins and drawers over the last 50 years? What about heavily toned coins? How do you tell them apart? I`ve seen ugly looking coins in ICCS and PCGS holders graded as PL and SP.
I guess the only way I`ll know for sure is to send em in to ICCS or PCGS..
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For early PL coins, the surfaces will be like mirrors, the letters of the obverse legend will be sharp with squared edges, same goes where the fields meet the devices. The rims will be square where the reeded edges meet the rim edge and the rim edges will have a squared look to them at the edge of the fields, but not quite as sharp as a specimen strike. In hand, it is not that hard to tell, but almost impossible to tell with photos over the internet.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Either way, it is still an outstanding set...
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Canada
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As I understand it, the early PL Sets were just specially selected coins from the regular business strikes. They were the best that the mint had on hand that day, but were really all busines strikes, although quite often first strikes from a set of dies. I might be wrong about this, but that is what I remember.
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Pillar of the Community
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I believe that in 1953 and earlier,if you wanted a set,you had to order it from the Bank of Canada rather than the mint.The mint was allowed to sell coins to visitors as souvenirs,not distribute to the general public.
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Pillar of the Community
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This discussion of field reflection is way easier to see in hand. Anyhow we're on the internet and all we have are photos. If you move the conversation to 1954/55 it's a lot easier to see the comments of "highly reflective" don't apply to (imo) the vast majority of PL sets of the time because the coins were shipped in a product that caused excessive surface changes. ebay item 150718629324 is a certified 1955 PL set and the only coin that is retaining it's reflections seem to be the 50 cent piece on the reverse. All the other fields seem cloudy and mucky just because of what they were shipped in and how long they were usually kept that way. I imagine if you are a PL coin collector the ideal is to hunt down the non toned highly contrasting coins with the mirror fields still in evidence. But to say a coin can't be from a PL set because you can't see you face in the thing isn't a great marker for deciding what type of strike it is. |
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was looking around online to help me with this ebay listing...I found this thread quite helpful, and I DID NOT buy the PL set listed here http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...h=true#rpdIdAlthough, makes me wonder whether the coins in that set ARE in fact PL...the 25c looks like it may have a mirror finish...the other coins (probably due to the crappy pictures) look UNC and not mirror at all... right decision? or should I have gotten the set? |
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I'm the OP, and for the price the auction you linked went for, I would have passed as well. I bought the set I posted off of ebay for about $50 on a buy it now. I would not pay big $$ for these "PL sets" without seeing them in hand. Edited by twoplustwo
01/09/2013 6:49 pm
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look carefully at the letters and legend, you will see really crisp and sharp letters on PL. On the business strikes you will see normal, rougher edges. If you have any other PL coins and regular MS coins you can see this difference. I have 1949 - 1952 TPG PL dollars. That's one difference I have noticed. |
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Canada
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Should mention also the fields are mirror like, You can see yourself, or you eyeball!!
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Pillar of the Community
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good to know guys, thanks for your help! This set sold for a large amount of cash....with the pictures the seller had posted, I wonder what drove so many buyers to bid.
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The 1c, 5c, 10c, and $1 are PL. The 25c and 50c are harder to tell. The toning on the 25c versus the (lack of) toning on the 1c might suggest this is a set assembled from more than one set.
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01/09/2013 11:31 pm
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Great thread! I have chance to purchase a couple PL 1953 dollars but really not 100 percent sure if they are PL and its a heavy price to take a gample. What do you think of these two? Thanks   |
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certainly looks possible, the surface is "mirror like"...but i'll leave that to the pros on the forum.
Also, could someone not simply polish the crap out of a high MS coin to make it look pl?
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For an untoned example, look at the 1955 dollar in the set: http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/pub...aspx?s=10179That is what a early 1950s PL dollar should look like. Quote:
Also, could someone not simply polish the crap out of a high MS coin to make it look pl? Heh, I'll let you think about that one for a bit... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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