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So You Have You House/Coins Locked?

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 Posted 01/23/2007  8:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wardtom084 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Ran into this today !!

http://www.peiferlock.com/alert-bump-keys.htm

***Edited by Forum Dad to remove link. We don't need to teach people to pick locks.***
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 Posted 01/23/2007  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't bother locking my coins. You couldn't find them anyways.
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 Posted 01/23/2007  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wardtom084 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Part if my post is missing...

***That's because I removed it, we don't need to teach people to pick locks. ~ Edited by Forum Dad***
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 Posted 01/23/2007  8:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add imanangel0686 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I lock up all my coins and currency but I lock them up because I am worried about fire safty. the last thing id want would be to have a fire and lose everything, I wouldnt want them stolen either, but even if someone broke in the house theres no way they would be able to find the safe.
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 Posted 01/23/2007  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wardtom084 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

You removed it. You don't think you can look this stuff up on the net?
I've never heard of such a thing.

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 Posted 01/23/2007  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

This is a numismatic forum, it serves absolutely no purpose to post a link that very explicitly shows how to break into peoples houses and I will not allow it. I left the link to the video, which is not explicit, and let's everyone know the danger is there. That's enough.

Please stop posting the link or references on how to find it.

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 Posted 01/23/2007  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Irishraider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think your intent was noble and you were probably only trying to warn people but maybe not a great thing to post links to criminal activities. True, you can find just about anything on the internet but this is a family oriented forum. Perhaps instead of posting a link, a mention of the story itself would have been enough to get a discussion going. I have to agree with Bobby on this one though, what he did was the correct thing to do.



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 Posted 01/24/2007  04:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the first I've heard about this, it's scary. Now even deadbolt locks aren't safe.
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 Posted 01/24/2007  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcook54 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seeing stuff like this makes me glad that I have gone to the trouble of installing a floor bolted safe... Not too expensive and a real pain for someone trying to remove it.
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 Posted 01/24/2007  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
This is a numismatic forum, it serves absolutely no purpose to post a link that very explicitly shows how to break into peoples houses


A few years before 9/11 I read a novel by Dale Brown. It was about a terrorist who used airplanes to destroy buildings in the USA. The Capitol (or White House) was targeted. I often wondered if he gave the wrong folks that idea.

The information is out there, but we don't need to display it.
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 Posted 01/24/2007  3:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jtomlin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It didn't matter whether the doors were locked or not. When our house got robbed recently......they kicked in the front door to gain access to the house. I lost 25 years of coin collecting and my wife lost all her jewelery and heirlooms from her family. Never thought it would happen to us!!!

I'm not going to go into details, but I've changed the security level on the house...the way my coins are stored and what I actually will be keeping in the house.

Take a look at your homeowners policy and make sure your coins are covered. MOST AREN'T!!! My policy considered them as "cash" and only paid 250.00.....a mere percentage of what I lost.
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 Posted 01/24/2007  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I used to work in the Insurance industry & trust me, if a break & enter specialist wants to gain entry to your home, it will happen, regardless of your level of security.

Deadbolts are meant to make it difficult for a burglar to take your possessions OUT of your home, NOT to deter them from breaking IN. It would look mighty suspicious to see someone removing items through a window, but who would take any notice of goods being carried out the door.

Don't ever leave a key to a deadbolt or security door inside the home, you're just making life easy for the criminal.

My home was burgled about 12 yrs ago, & I lost lot of possessions, but they didn't find the coins or jewellery I had stashed. Luckily I had adequate insurance & everything was replaced.

If they'd found the coins, I'd have lost the lot and insurance would have only covered a very minimal amount. Since then , I've beefed up security, but I hold no illusions of safety. If crims really want to get in, they'll do it.

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 Posted 01/24/2007  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would be impossible to have my handful of valuable coins stolen, because they are in a safety deposit box at my bank. Darn shame to have to go down town to look at them, but that's the way it is I guess.

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 Posted 01/24/2007  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
It would be impossible to have my handful of valuable coins stolen


Nothing is impossible. I used to work in Bank security. Loss happens, and vaults are (very infrequently) broken into. Of course, it IS a heck of a lot more secure then keeping them at home.
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 Posted 01/24/2007  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Steve:

I thought of that just after I made the above post.

I have heard of a case or two where valuables were pilfered from safety deposit boxes.

So, I guess you are right. Nothing is impossible.
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 Posted 01/24/2007  8:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On a side note, about safe deposit boxes...........

Around here, a few banks have gone to self serve safe deposit. The box operates with one key, and no bank employee goes in, and you don't sign in. In some of these banks, almost anyone can just walk in.

I would recommend that anyone who uses safe deposit to NOT use this type. Go to a bank that has the traditional 2 keys (one for you, one for the bank) and where you have to sign in to get to your box.

All I can tell you is that I used to work in bank security, and I wouldn't touch a self serve safe deposit box with a ten foot pole.

Also, put your spouse on as a signer, or at least let your family know you have a box. If the rent goes unpaid for several years (because of your untimely demise,) the box is opened and the contents go to the state.
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