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Marc Faber: Store Your Gold Before Government Takes It

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Marc Faber: Store Your Gold Before Government Takes It

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Posted by Mike Tirone - Monday, March 5th, 2012


We've heard it all from the Dr. Doom, economist Marc Faber. He likes to buy physical gold...

And what's not to like about the yellow metal? We've seen highs in prices consistently throughout the past ten years, including last year's $1,900/oz. spike.

But, as Faber warns, there is a catch: the U.S. government can and may seize privately held gold.

"I prefer to play the commodity space by owning physical gold [but] if I were an American, I would store it outside the U.S. because in the U.S., it is not completely unlikely that they will eventually take it away."

We have heard these kinds of accusations and assumptions about the U.S. government crumbling so badly that gold and other precious metals will be taken away from their rightful owners. One cautious gold owner points out "since [the U.S. government] have found a way to not allow you to access your cash at a bank, they'll eventually take your metals as well."

From MoneyNews,

"Like in 1933, gold will be purchased back by the government" because eventually the financial mess will be so bad that gold prices "will go ballistic, and the government will take away something from a minority, and not many people own gold."

"When gold prices shoot up, it will be quite a popular measure to take it away from these rich people," Faber says. "It's happened before!"

The topic of storing your physical gold internationally is one that continues to be discussed, as Wealth Wire has published several articles on the best places to store your gold and several other reasons why you should store it overseas. We even showed you how to hide it in your backyard. But Faber is one of the first credible economists to publicly suggest finding alternative storage areas for your gold.

Faber is a historian --as most economists are-- and he knows that from May 1, 1933 until 1974, U.S. citizens could no longer hold gold as a protection against paper money, as the U.S. currency lost its gold backing at the same time. He continues to sight this large period of time in U.S. history for gold's incredible value and he believes it could happen again.

At the time foreign currencies would exchange the U.S. dollars that came into their possession, which were known as 'eurodollars' for gold. The strategy to hedge against the United State's currency grew most popular once the dollar was devalued and floated against the gold price in 1971.

But like most of the big named economists and analysts, there are different opinions on what gold's next move is, as well as America's financial status. Recently, the gold world went abuzz as billionaire hedge-fund manager John Paulson told investors it's time to buy the metal as protection against inflation caused by government spending. Gold traders took action and got quite bullish.

But Faber says he's not in a hurry to buy gold, but he accumulates gold every month on dips because he believes the gold market is still under a correction (which he has been saying since just after last year's $1,900 high.)

With his finger on the pulse of the Asian market, Faber finally notes that China's economy is continuing to slow and he feels it will crash at some point. This is why he is personally staying out of commodities other than gold.

As for the rest of the market, the Paulson push might have been holding strong during the last two weeks as, according to Bloomberg,

Twelve of 22 surveyed by Bloomberg expect prices to gain next week and five were neutral. Paulson & Co. is already the biggest investor in the SPDR Gold Trust, the largest exchange- traded product backed by bullion, with a stake valued at $2.9 billion, a Securities and Exchange Commission filing Feb. 14 showed. Investors have 2,389.7 metric tons in ETPs, within 0.2 percent of the record reached in December and more than all but four central banks, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Speculators in U.S. gold futures are now their most bullish since September after the Bank of England and Bank of Japan said they will buy more assets and the Federal Reserve said it was considering purchasing more bonds. Central banks are also expanding their bullion reserves, adding 439.7 tons last year, the most in almost five decades. They may buy a similar amount in 2012, the London-based World Gold Council said.

Gold for April delivery, the most actively traded contract, rose $10.90, or 0.6%, to end Thursday (March 1) at $1,722.20 a troy ounce on the Comex division of the New York Mercentile Exchange.
http://www.wealthwire.com/news/metals/2799
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Marc Faber: US 'Financial Mess' Will Force Government to Take Your Gold
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inShare TweetinShare3 Economist Marc Faber, publisher of the Gloom, Boom and Doom report, says the government will seize privately held gold, even as he continues to buy physical gold himself.

"I prefer to play the commodity space by owning physical gold," Faber tells Chiefsworld. "If I were an American, I would store it outside the U.S., because in the U.S., it is not completely unlikely that they will eventually take it away."

"Like in 1933, gold will be purchased back by the government" because eventually the financial mess will be so bad that gold prices "will go ballistic, and the government will take away something from a minority, and not many people own gold."

Editor's Note: Economist Unapologetically Calls Out Bernanke, Obama for Mishandling Economy. See What They Did

"When gold prices shoot up, it will be quite a popular measure to take it away from these rich people," Faber says. "It's happened before."

From May 1, 1933, until 1974, U.S. citizens could no longer hold gold as a protection against paper money, which also lost its gold backing at the same time.

Foreign central banks could continue to exchange the U.S. dollars that came into their possession -- known as eurodollars for decades -- for gold and did so particularly when the U.S. dollar was devalued and then floated against the gold price in 1971.

Faber says he's not in a hurry to buy gold, but accumulates gold every month because he believes the gold market is still under a correction.

Faber notes that the Chinese economy is slowing, and says it will slow further and perhaps crash at some point, which is why he is staying out of commodities other than gold.

Meanwhile, Nomura's Bob Janjuah says markets are so rigged by government policies that investing dangers lurk virtually everywhere.

"My personal recommendation is to sit in gold and non-financial high quality corporate credit and blue-chip big cap non-financial global equities," Janjuah writes at Zero Hedge.

"Bond and currency markets are now so rigged by policy makers that I have no meaningful insights to offer, other than my bubble fears."

Elsewhere, Gold traders are getting more bullish after billionaire hedge-fund manager John Paulson told investors it's time to buy the metal as protection against inflation caused by government spending.

Twelve of 22 surveyed by Bloomberg expect prices to gain next week and five were neutral. Paulson & Co. is already the biggest investor in the SPDR Gold Trust, the largest exchange-traded product backed by bullion, with a stake valued at $2.9 billion, a Securities and Exchange Commission filing Feb. 14 showed.

Gold for April delivery, the most actively traded contract, rose $10.90, or 0.6 percent, to settle Thursday at $1,722.20 a troy ounce on the Comex division of the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Editor's Note: Economist Unapologetically Calls Out Bernanke, Obama for Mishandling Economy. See What They Did


Read more: Marc Faber: US 'Financial Mess' Will Force Government to Take Your Gold

http://www.moneynews.com/Headline/F...02/id/431194
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Faber seems to have more than a little "chicken little" in him and that's for sure. Somehow, the sky is ALWAYS falling. I do like his slow monthly purchase of PMs, though. That seems a sensible approach to me as is buying the dips.

Yes, FDR did issue an executive order, which was unconstitutional IMHO, as it definitely constituted an illegal government seizure of private property without any due process whatsoever. Unfortunately, this was not challenged in court, so he got away with it. It makes me wonder what would happen today if the government tried such an action.

The funny part of Executive Order 6102 was that the move was completely telegraphed about a month in advance. So what did all of the rich people do? They simply moved their gold to Canadian and Mexican banks! Once there, their gold was 100% immune to US government theft, er confiscation.
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A hole in the ground would make a lot more sense to me than storing it in Europe. How do you ever expect to get it home?

Swiss bamks aren't even safe anymore since they are bowing to threats by our govenment.

A lot of people don't know it, but you are only allowed six withdrawal transactions per month from a savings account in the US now. Imagine the limits that will be put in place when the fan starts turning brown. There will soon be no safe place to deposit your money here in the US once the attention swings from the Euro Zone back to our homeland.

MF Global already proved that you can effectively steal a billion dollars of deposited funds and then close the doors. What's next?
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Iono where you got that 6 withdrawals a month figure from Junior. I have done way more in a month from a BOA savings account without problems.
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They come looking for your gold just say....."What gold, I don't know what you are talking about Willis."
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The six per month limit is a Federal Reserve Rule. Just Google "six withdrawals per month" and there are plenty of references to the rule. Some financial institutions may not follow it to the letter, but it is a rule nonetheless. It is actually 204.2(d) of Regulation D of The Federal Reserve Board. Bank Of America is hardly a shining example of a financial institution that gives a ----- what anyone thinks.
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They come looking for your gold just say....."What gold, I don't know what you are talking about Willis."




I'll just tell them I sold it to Silverhawk74
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Considering the Fed's absolutely abysmal record of achievement in their stated goals (but not in their REAL goals), one would have to wonder just what else they need to do to become more trouble than they are worth. Oh, wait! They are already there!

As far as free men and women are concerned, if we put OUR money into a bank, we can just as surely take it back out again and on any schedule that suits OUR needs. If this is not acceptable to the Fed or the banks, then we simply do not need them any longer and they can go take a hike and fly a kite.

The good news, of course, is that the Fed received a 100 year authorization charter in August of 1913. In about 17 months, their original charter will expire... unless it is reauthorized by Congress. What a marvelous opportunity to just END THE FED!

As to those who always ask, "but what will replace them?", my response is nothing will replace them. They are not doing anything that needs to be done, so if they quit doing it, so what? We had no Fed for over 100 years when this country got started and we seemed to do just fine without one. We can do so again.

Let the local and regional banks serve their customers needs in a free and competitive banking market. The huge TBTF banks can either run their banking operations correctly or risk going into bankruptcy. Either way, it is NOT up to America's citizens to bankroll their leveraged gambling addiction.

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When My friend pulled all of his cash out of his C+ rated financial institution, He made exactly six large withdrawals within a one month period so as to not trip The Fed's infraction buzzer. They may let you take more than six in a month, but if they did you can be assured that The Fed has a little asterisk on your FBI file. Probably right next to the digitally recorded phone conversations of yours that the FBI deemed worthy of record keeping for reasons of National Security since you are endangering the financial stability of our "Free Republic". Sounds like paranoia, but it is probably closer to reality than we could possibly imagine. They need to justify their existance and tech system expenditures somehow.
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Well, Junior, the problem here, as I see it, is that paranoia begets paranoia in a vicious spiral like a whirlpool. The more paranoid and tyrannical a government becomes, the more paranoid and frightened the citizens become. I guess that those running the show have forgotten that in a republic, the government fears the wrath of the people while in a tyranny, the people fear the wrath of the government.

Another thought... with each additional rule, regulation, and law, a little more liberty dies. After a few hundred years of this only a huge pile of rules, regulations, and laws will remain... but no liberty.
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Heck Ed, the Feds would automatically figure that gold has exchanged hands another time or two since selling it to me, and would not even come looking for it down my way, lol....
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I'll just tell them I sold it to Silverhawk74



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Heck Ed, the Feds would automatically figure that gold has exchanged hands another time or two since selling it to me, and would not even come looking for it down my way, lol....

Huh? Oh, I see. Someone else is using my eagle head icon too.
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Oops, yes I do get you an Chris confused form time to time when I am not reading closely enough....
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No problem, Hawk. Chris seems to be one of the good guys too.
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Yes Ed a vicious cycle and less and less privacy and freedom. And they control all or at least they a piecing it together even right down to our medical records and healthcare
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