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Commems Collection Classic: 1920 Pilgrim Landing Tercentenary

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Here's my 1920 Pilgrim in PCGS MS-65. It exhibits the characteristics that I am attracted to and look for in all of my commemorative purchases -- brilliant, cartwheel luster with a "minty fresh" appearance, this one definitely passes the "eye test."

I have assembled a 55-piece Type and Major Variety Commem set, so I also have a nice 1921 Pilgrim with the small "1921" date in the obverse field; I'll post the 1921 separately.

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I've always liked the design of this coin, a simple, classic, portrait obverse (Plymouth Colony Governor William Bradford) and a reverse featuring a nicely executed sailing ship (the Mayflower); the models for the coin were prepared by Cyrus Dallin from furnished designs.

One of my first US commem purchases was a 1920 Pilgrim. It was in nice AU condition and I purchased it from the local coin shop that I had visited since I was a kid. I soon learned that I overpaid for the coin -- largely due to my own inexperience at the time -- and immediately thereafter became much more of a student of the series. I'm still learning today, more than 20 years later!

Enjoy!


1920 Pilgrim - Obverse

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1920 Pilgrim - Reverse

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So far all of your examples have bee outstanding coins. My collection is a lower quality set as I am limited by finances but I still have the desire to complete the type series.
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Another beautiful example of a classic US commemorative!
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Very nice!


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I have assembled a 55-piece Type and Major Variety Commem set...
It is good to know that we will be enjoying these posts for a while to come.
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That's one handsome commem, and one of my personal favorites!
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 Posted 03/20/2012  2:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To all: Thank you for the kind words on the coins I've posted thus far -- they are much appreciated!

muddler: My set started out as a "raw" AU/BU set stored in a Dansco album. Over time, I upgraded the set to what it is now. I'm sure you've got a great set in process -- keep going!
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Another fantastic coin!
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Apologize in advance if this turns out to be a lengthy reply ... but I am fascinated by this series and am truly enjoying the coins you are showing us commems ...

To my eye ... this is an outstanding visual example of the Pilgrim half ... or, for that matter, any Classic Silver Commemorative.


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It exhibits the characteristics that I am attracted to and look for in all of my commemorative purchases -- brilliant, cartwheel luster with a "minty fresh" appearance


Appears we have the exact same aesthetic for these coins ... I am attracted to the same eye-appeal ... know full well that some (many?) have probably been dipped at some point ... but as long as they are blazing in luster it works for me.

Wondering how you factor in strike characteristics? That has been a difficult one for me as I build my set ... no question that I would prefer hammered struck examples ... but in some cases had to settle for 'average' strikes in order to achieve the prime objective you stated so well above.

Wondering as well how you view the 'value' of a CAC green beanie on your classic commemorative ... note that your Texas and this Pilgrim are CAC approved, while your lovely Hawaiian is not. Do you care? Is this a criteria for your set?


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I have assembled a 55-piece Type and Major Variety Commem set


That's an interesting concept that I have not given any thought to until I read it just now in your post.

Wondering which five 'additional' coins you consider to be the major varieties?

I can list four obvious ones beyond the basic 50-coin type set ...

1921 Alabama 2x2
1935/1934 Boone
1922 Grant Star
1921 Missouri 2x4

I suppose one can also consider the 1920 vs 1921 Pilgrim a 'major variety' ... but if you open that door ... how is it different than the 1892 vs 1893 Columbian or the 1935 vs 1936 San Diego?

Outstanding coins so far commems ... keep them coming.

David
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 Posted 03/20/2012  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nickelsearcher: Thanks for the positive feedback, I've enjoyed the search for nice coins and am happy that others are about my choices.

Regarding your questions:

- Strike: I have rejected coins based on weak strike, but have also "overlooked" slight weakness of strike if the coin is clean and really "pops" as I rotate the coin and catch the luster. I search for coins I enjoy looking at vs. those with absolute technical perfection.

- CAC Beanie: I can honestly say that the CAC sticker did not influence my coin buying decision for any of the coins in my collection. I've looked at quite a few commems over the years and can generally spot the better than average coins. I have no aversion to the stickers, but at present haven't considered submitting any of my coins for review. That could change in the future of course!

- Varieties: You've got it! I consider the Alabama 2x2, Missouri 2x4, Grant w/ Star, the small date 1934 Boone and small date 1921 Pilgrim as the varieties. IMHO, the San Diego coins are differences in mint marks vs. a deliberate design change and the Columbian pieces are the same design/different year (just like the Oregon, Texas, etc.). Of course, some day, I might expand my set to include one example of each mint mark for each coin.

Hope I got 'em all!
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Well stated reply commems ... pleased to have you here in our small family of commemorative addicts.

Appreciate the new insight into what you call the five major varieties ... I'll agree that the 1921 Pilgrim is fundamentally different from other multiple dated coins ... and can fit into your definition.

Honestly ... after 4 years of chasing these coins I never considered the concept of the five major varieties.

Another challenge for my set.

David
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Very nice coin with a ship on it. That is impressive to have 55 coins already.
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I was going through a few things this evening and came across this tie-in medal for the 1920/21 Pilgrim half-dollar, thought folks might enjoy seeing it.


1921 Plymouth Tercentenary Medal - Obverse

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1921 Plymouth Tercentenary Medal - Reverse

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Any ideas as to where any of these medals are for sale?
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Just love how perfectly adapted that original Half Moon design is to the circular shape of a coin!
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I was going through a few things this evening and came across this tie-in medal for the 1920/21 Pilgrim half-dollar, thought folks might enjoy seeing it.
Fantastic!
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