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Safe Deposit Box Or Home Safe?

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 Posted 06/14/2016  08:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add UltraRant to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I should actually buy a safe and put some important documents in there. I'm not sure if my coin collection would be valuable enough (just a few thousand dollars or so) to buy an xxl safe for that: the safe would cost more than the coin collection. It would be great if the safe was fireproof, though, as I live in a typical Scandinavian wooden house.

Banks might still have safe deposit boxes here, but what's the point of putting all your coins far away from you if you like to just look at them often? Also, a safe at the bank isn't exactly free over here.
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 Posted 06/14/2016  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add davec13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I bought a nice 21 gun safe and brought it home late at night..None of the neighbors knew anything about it. Well a couple days later I was so proud of it ,I told one person that I thought I could trust..now they all know I have it..Dont make that mistake..


I think I would rather have people know I have a safe. That little information while some may see it as bringing attention to yourself, it also lets people know you have your items secured. When my safe was moved in the entire neighborhood knew. It's not often they see heavy equipment loading things into a house. My safe isn't a Gun safe though it's a true safe that I highly doubt anyone would ever be able to open. I also have security cameras around my property and there may be one or two weapons in the house, plus a couple of dogs. It definitely isn't gonna stopped everyone from trying stuff, but it's better than nothing. I also have everything insured so if it was stolen I will one way or another get the items back.
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 Posted 06/14/2016  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I highly recommend a bank safety deposit box for your coins and a gun and a gun safe for the home.

I have been robbed before, it sucks.

I was living in two different places at the time and fortunately didn't have all my coins in one location.

The night before I got robbed, I actually had about $20,000 in gold and silver out.

I was organizing and sorting and taking some pictures.

Stayed up too late with my coins.

Woke up and had a mess of coins out still, but had to go to work.

Don't know why, but I decided I had to pick up my coins before going in to work.

So I put them all back in their boxes or what not and then put them on my computer desk chair.

I then threw a blanket over them to hide them crudely in plain sight, not my normal spot, but I wasn't going to be able to do that and make it to work on time comfortably so I went for hidden in plain sight.

Went to work.

Came home and my door wasn't closed right. It was shut and locked, but it wasn't shut fully. Must have been in a hurry I figured.

Go inside, notice one of my plants in the window on the stairs fell down and was broken on the steps.

Still hadn't figured out yet what happened. The robbers likely hopped on the attached garage and went in through the open window at the top of the steps, knocked my plant over on the way in and then made it out through the hastily closed door.

It didn't sink in what had happened until I made it to the living room where the coins were located.

My big TV was gone. Kind of hard to miss even after a long day of work on little sleep.

Crap, I had been robbed.

Crap, MY COINS!

Ran to the computer desk.

Threw the blanket still on the chair (promising) to the side.

Bingo, coins were there.

Robbers got my TV and my XBOX and nothing else.

Did not notice my coins hidden in plain sight.

They only took the TV and XBOX, didn't even take my liquor cabinet.

Fairly certain it was neighborhood kids or some young adults renting who could see the upstairs TV from the window and could figure out my work schedule.

Relieved that I only lost a TV and XBOX and still had all my coins, I was still panicked.

At that point even though I am likely one of the largest coin collectors in the world (6'4" roughly 265 but fairly thin at that weight) I just didn't feel safe.

First move I loaded all my coins to the car. I couldn't move them all in one trip. It was weird putting some in the Jeep and then having to run back in and get more. Felt like I was loading up a stage coach or something.

Took them to a more secure location with someone on site 24 hours a day.

The next day I took them to the bank and started using a safety deposit box.

Most everything is in the bank now. I have images of what I would have been looking at and I have a small house collection on hand as well as anything I have bought and not put into the SDB.

When I tell this story in person I close it by displaying my God given and Constitutionally guaranteed right to bear arms and a joke about how American gun control is hitting your targets.

At this point I done reckon I control my weapon mighty fine.
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 Posted 06/14/2016  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great story and a great reason to use a safe deposit box.
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 Posted 06/14/2016  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter53562 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is no right or wrong answer. Consider all the pros and cons.

Home safe:
*24-hour access to your goods
*No monthly rental fee - just a one-time expense
*Can be removed/broken into
*How do you get a large safe into your home without your neighbors seeing?

Safe deposit box:
*No 24-hour access
*Monthly fees
*Not insured
*Contents can be lost due to clerical errors, flooding, etc (if you don't believe me, look it up on Google)
*You can have one without your neighbors knowing
*Much more secure than a home safe

Do your own due diligence/research and decide what's best for your situation.
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 Posted 06/14/2016  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ace_ftw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another pro for having a safety deposit box (at least in Canada) is that its a tax write off. The con is that most banks don't have any readily available.
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 Posted 06/14/2016  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Atlas642 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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*How do you get a large safe into your home without your neighbors seeing?


Put it in a refrigerator box.
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 Posted 06/14/2016  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Parklane64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This reminds me, I have to do laundry today.
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 Posted 06/15/2016  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 4mile123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately, you can no longer get a personal tax deduction for safety deposit boxes in Canada.
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 Posted 06/17/2016  06:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bank safe-deposit, no thanks, not with the recent robberies of safe-deposit contents, and the fact that their are two keys to your box. One for you, and one for the bank.
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 Posted 12/28/2016  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jillabean to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This has been an interesting thread for me. I was going to ask a similar question but searched for a topic on it first. I don't have that many coins at all. Just two worth a total of about $500 (I just started with these two coins). My house is too small to hide a safe anywhere. So I would think I have to use a safe deposit box eventually. Right now I have them in a drawer in my house, but I've been wondering what to do as I amass more. Is there a point (dollar-wise) where you seriously look at locking up the coins? For now, I just keep them in a coin album in drawer in an old end table. There are much more valuable (and easier to find) things in my house that thieves would most like go for for me to worry too much about the coins now. What about insurance. I saw someone mention that. When do you start looking into insurance for coins (vs maybe just adding a rider to a homeowner's policy)?

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 Posted 12/28/2016  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is nothing wrong with keeping a couple thousand dollars in coins in the house. Much more than that and I'd get a safety deposit box.
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 Posted 12/28/2016  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Imthealphaomega to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally I like a home safe. I currently keep all my coins in a secluded safe that is fireproof, waterproof and is so heavy one person cannot move it. I also have other ways of deterring would be robbers. Alarm system, a good guard dog, a few guns as my dad has a full conceal and carry license in NY ( and I know where the extra 9mm is in case of emergency) If somehow someone manages to best the 3 countermeasures, the small safe I have is in a tight space and is well over 400 pounds. Good luck to any robber.
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 Posted 12/29/2016  12:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeysanders627 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you want piece of mind, I would keep it at the bank. That is the safest place for it. People, today, only have time to rob tellers. They don't have time to rob safe deposit boxes. They need to be in and out in a small amount of time.

Most home robberies in neighborhoods with well off people, are done by professionals. Let's face it. Most people who have thousands of dollars in coins are usually not poor. If they know how many people are in the house and scope out the times you are there, they will have enough time to break open your safe.

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 Posted 12/29/2016  01:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add llewellin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It might be more advantageous to not put all of your eggs in one basket, so to speak. If you scatter coins/valuables in a haphazard and hidden manner throughout your domicile, you lower the risk of losing it all at once (barring a house fire) and don't need to pay the SDB rental either.
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