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What do you think about this one?

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 Posted 03/28/2013  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the comunity

This is gold Solidus of the emperor Honorius. The coin appears real but they are widely faked especially in eastern Europe.
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 Posted 03/28/2013  6:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Magdalena to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much for the reply but how can I know is it fake or not?
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 Posted 03/28/2013  6:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
echizento is right.
We all need to be aware that these have been heavily faked in good quality gold.
I am NOT an expert in picking fakes in this series, but I have to admit that the serifs of the twin 'AA's on the reverse make me think.

Gold of high purity that is used in coins is realtively soft.
I also find it quite extroardinary to find a gold coin that is 1,600 years old with absolutely no sign of wear or minor damage.
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http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=97223 It looks to me like this one! :( As you said they are widely faked especially in eastern Europe(and I am from Macedonia LOL) Now, I am disappointed :)
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 Posted 03/28/2013  7:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I always like to keep all of the coins that I consider suspicious in a separate collection, until I proof that they have otherwise found to be genuine.

I have a separate collection of nearly 100 fake 'coins'.
The reason I maintain a collection of 'dark' coins is for my own educational purposes.
We are never able to identify fake coins if we have never given them serious study.
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I think the metal flow lines are a bit suspect - perhaps overdone. But this doesn't make it fake - the real deal could just as easily look like this. Probably best have it authenticated.

I have this exact type in bronze and the design style matches - bar the hand, which would be my only quarrel. Thats being said, they had better people to do the gold and silver coins so I cant really judge it by that either.
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The more I look at this coin, the more doubt I have. The flow line look more like what you would see if the coin was struck using a press rather than struck by hand. As the others have said it's best to have the coin checked by and expert. If there are none in your area, you might want to contact David Sear and send the coin to him to see if it would certify.
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http://imgur.com/a/26Hxl better image of it.
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I am back ...I was doing some research how my father has got the coin and I found out that he bought it from a man from my village. There was a small pot full of coins like this one.The man found them while plowing the field. My father bought just one and the others were melted by the owner... Now I don't know what to think?
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *weeps*

Melted down?!
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Yes, melted! My father paid the coin with a Marshal Tito gold coin(That was like 40 years ago. That time people from my village didn't know much about ancient coins) and now I have it. And now ...what?
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 Posted 04/09/2013  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Monkeybean to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A hoard coin would explain the good condition .
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My god, it makes my blood boil that so much archeology is melted! It reduces its value!

Hoards of gold coins from the late empire... If I were you, i'd hope for it to be fake, to spare the horrors of such a deed!

Unfortunately, if the story is real, then the coin probably is too.
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You need to understand Ben that very often (especially in the former East Bloc) when these finds were made the 'State' claimed possession of all finds. I have an Armenian friend who loves to tell the story of the guys in his village who made a similar discovery. They divided the find and stashed the coins which was all good until their wives got involved and started arguing about how much each man 'deserved'. Soon enough the rumours spread and the KGB men came to find out what was going on. After a bit of 'enhanced interrogation' they left town with the entire hoard. The rest of the village learned a valuable lesson. If you find something make it disappear fast ! This is the reason you have the 'treasure trove' laws in most countries. Better to notify the right people and then share in the find than to risk losing everything.
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I talked to my cousin, 3 days ago he told me that they have 2 coins left that they keep so this makes it three coins survived. And 2 coins was sold or better say exchanged 30 years ago for a 20 gr ducat from 1918th(ostereich or something).
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