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1978 Silver Penny? Testing Real! Any Ideas?

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 Posted 03/17/2016  12:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pete41 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I looked at an article on Rare Lincoln cents and found that the mint did produce some test coins made of "aluminum" in 1974 and 1975. These were all recalled or destroyed supposedly. Interesting it's in the close time frame of the 1978 cent listed here. Aluminum would be much lighter than copper or a clad dime. It was an effort by the mint to make coins cheaper to produce thus more profitable. But, the concept was abandoned. Just food for thought.
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 Posted 03/18/2016  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brushy Bandit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if everyone's weighs 1.9 grams. Seems like there is somethin to this with so many out there.
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 Posted 12/18/2016  3:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maggiec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have the same penny. Did you get answers to its origin?
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Here is a image of an aluminum that is graded and it shows the weight:
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.93 grams.
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 Posted 01/12/2017  03:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Trichiro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I too have come into a silverfish VERY light 1978 D penny. Has anyone made a definitive answer? I have a monoprice microscope I will post pictures with...

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You can see the copper on your coin. Just a poor plating job. The coin was copper, then poorly plated. Now it is showing the copper color in spots. The weight would be normal for a copper cent. 3.14 grams. Note the weight on an aluminum cent. .93 grams.
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 Posted 01/12/2017  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Trichiro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, you were right, its 3 grams-ish. Thanks for the expertise.
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I also have one of these 1978 silver colored pennies. I have been trying for YEARS to find out info on this penny. I called a local coin dealer who told me there is NO WAY you have a 1978 penny that is silver in color. I took it in and showed him. He wanted to buy it from me, but I wouldnt sell it to him. I would LOVE to find out more about this penny.

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I called a local coin dealer who told me there is NO WAY you have a 1978 penny that is silver in color. I took it in and showed him. He wanted to buy it from me, but I wouldnt sell it to him.


Did you or the local coin shop dealer weight the coin? Most likely plated after strike. Weight would shed more light. Thanks, Doug.
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Well, if we do some simple division, we find that this penny is about 61% the weight of a normal penny, compared to about 29% for an aluminum cent. It's obviously not an aluminum cent. Though seriously unlikely, pure metallic Arsenic has a density withing 1/50 gram per cubic centimeter of what this mystery metal is. Calculations: 1.9 divided by 0.9 (weight of this penny divided by the weight of an aluminum penny) = 2.111(repeating decimal). Density of aluminum = 2.7 g/cm cubed. 2.7 * 2.111 = 5.7 g/cm cubed. Density of arsenic: 5.72 g/cm cubed. Really really really really unlikely, but the math pretty much works out.
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It would be possible for a silver plated planchet to weigh 1.9 grams be of equal thickness AND diameter to a genuine common penny, but the white metal alloy would need a specific gravity of about 5.5 grams / cc.
There a number of metallic elements that would need to be alloyable with aluminum at the right percentage mix, to achieve this result of 5.5 grams / cc.

Either some error has been made in the measurement of weight and diameter, or such an alloy as postulated above has to be used.
XRF analysis of some of the core may give some result, but that would require a deep scratch in the coin to get at the core.
There are much more sophisticated non destructive approaches to core analysis but perhaps the coin may have to be sent to the U.S. Mint to get to the truth.
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That would make a good subject for a new thread. "Gravity Test." I hear a lot about it, but know nothing except term. So that would be a great thread topic for those who know something about the subject.
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That would make a good subject for a new thread. "Gravity Test." I hear a lot about it, but know nothing except term. So that would be a great thread topic for those who know something about the subject.
Two very old threads...

http://goccf.com/t/39666
http://goccf.com/t/40733
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Kind of an interesting read, but left me with a headache. Seems too technical for me. But now I have an idea how it is done.
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CWB's linked this a few months ago. Thought it sounded simple enough at the time, but yet to try. Thanks, Doug.

http://www.lincolncentsonline.com/C...%20Zinc.html
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