Coin Community Family of Web Sites
Shop CCF Members on eBay! Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer 300,000 items to help build your collection! Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Commems Collection Canadian: 2005 $20 Pacific Rim National Park

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 27 / Views: 5,050Next Topic
Page: of 2
CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
Learn More...
commems's Avatar
United States
12252 Posts
 Posted 02/23/2014  2:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
As a collector of modern coins depicting bald eagles in natural settings, I recently added the RCM's 2005 $20 silver coin that celebrates the Pacific Rim National Park Reserve to my collection. The park, located on the west coast of Vancouver Island, was the first of Canada's National Parks to be celebrated as part of a five-coin series issued in 2005 and 2006.

The coin depicts a scene from the park's temperate rainforest, including its trademark tangled conifer trees, hanging ferns and moss. A bald eagle is seen flying in the foreground with a fish clutched in its claws. The design is the work of noted portrait artist Susanna Blunt. Of note, Ms. Blunt is also the artist behind the portrait of Queen Elizabeth II seen on current Canadian coins. If I recall correctly, it was Ms. Blunt's first reverse design for a Canadian coin.

The multi-layered relief of the coin mimics the multiple layers of vegetation found in the Pacific Rim Park and produces a strong visual image on the coin. To fully appreciate all of the coin's detail, it must be studied â€" preferably with a coin loupe. To my eye, it also displays multiple finishes similar to recent RCM releases; the coin was not marketed as such, however.

The actual mintage of the coin has not been reported by the RCM. They have listed combined sales of 21,378 for the two 2005 National Parks coins - Pacific Rim and Mingan Archipelago - in their Annual Report for 2005. If the two coins sold in roughly equal amounts, it would suggest that the Pacific Rim coin's mintage was roughly 10 to 11,000 or about half of its published limit of 20,000. I would guess that the Pacific Rim coin, being the first issue of the series, sold more coins and has a true mintage of 12,000+.

Whatever the actual number, the coin remains available in today's market at or below its original issue price of $69.95 (CDN).

As noted by Silveroid in a thread last year about the RCM's 2013 Bald Eagle coin series, the coin makes for a nice companion piece and a perfect "center hole" filler in one of the RCM's five-coin wooden boxes from its silver O Canada set. See the original discussion here: https://goccf.com/t/155915&whichpage=3

Here's mine:

Commems-Collection-Canadian:-2005-$20-Pacific-Rim-National-Park


Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
Rest in Peace
Dcadon's Avatar
Canada
1360 Posts
 Posted 02/23/2014  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dcadon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was just reviewing some old 'Mint' flyers - one of which was advertising this coin. I remembering then, thinking that $70 for an ounce of silver, was quite expensive. Looking further into that flyer, the 1/25th ounce Gold coin was also $69.95 - which I did purchase. (at today's price of $129.95 it was a steal!)
Pillar of the Community
yingyang's Avatar
Canada
1823 Posts
 Posted 02/23/2014  3:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yingyang to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
They have listed combined sales of 21,378 for the two 2005 National Parks coins - Pacific Rim and Mingan Archipelago - in their Annual Report for 2005.


Thanks for the info got to find one ,don't have in my collection.


Commems-Collection-Canadian:-2005-$20-Pacific-Rim-National-Park
Edited by yingyang
02/23/2014 3:11 pm
CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
Learn More...
commems's Avatar
United States
12252 Posts
 Posted 02/23/2014  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@yingyang: Thanks for contributing, but...

For future reference, you shouldn't post images of copyrighted material (such as this page from the Charlton Standard Catalog.)


Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
Pillar of the Community
NuMoosematist's Avatar
Canada
867 Posts
 Posted 02/23/2014  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NuMoosematist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
For future reference, you shouldn't post images of copyrighted material (such as this page from the Charlton Standard Catalog.)



You are kidding, commems?
Edited by NuMoosematist
02/23/2014 7:28 pm
Pillar of the Community
yingyang's Avatar
Canada
1823 Posts
 Posted 02/23/2014  8:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yingyang to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
just ignoring the comment he just left.
CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
Learn More...
commems's Avatar
United States
12252 Posts
 Posted 02/23/2014  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
You are kidding, commems?

I'm absolutely not kidding!

Owning a book doesn't give someone the legal right to scan images of pages from it and post them to a web site.


Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
Pillar of the Community
allranger's Avatar
United States
1391 Posts
 Posted 02/23/2014  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add allranger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a nice coin I didn't know existed, it is now on my list.

I am pretty sure the post of a partial page falls under U.S. fair use laws:

Section 107 contains a list of the various purposes for which the reproduction of a particular work may be considered fair, such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Section 107 also sets out four factors to be considered in determining whether or not a particular use is fair.

The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes
The nature of the copyrighted work
The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole
The effect of the use upon the potential market for, or value of, the copyrighted work

Pillar of the Community
silverwolf's Avatar
Canada
3733 Posts
 Posted 02/24/2014  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
totally agree with allranger here. it is an excerpt being used as a reference, if going to school taught us anything, it is allowed in the context that is being used.
Valued Member
Canada
234 Posts
 Posted 02/24/2014  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ksimms3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you allranger for the clarification. We all can't be internet police.

Indeed that is a nice collection, I have been thinking myself on picking them up.
Pillar of the Community
Canada
6767 Posts
 Posted 02/24/2014  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This absolutelly lovely coin.
Thank you, commems, for description.

When I first saw it (2 years ago at CC&C store), even without properly understanding the details, I wanted and bought it.

Also, I still find strange, that the coin having popular specifications, and very nicely crafted (multy-layer proof finish, to highlight the details) had no big appreciation.

Together with it bought:

2006 Canada $20 Georgian Bay Islands National Park Silver Coin

(also for more or less issue price)
and later was interesting to notice, that 1-st Go7 coin has the same theme.
Pillar of the Community
NuMoosematist's Avatar
Canada
867 Posts
 Posted 02/24/2014  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NuMoosematist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ allranger

Thank you for the legal clarification with regard to American copyright laws. (After all this is an American website.)

I'm glad to see that this law actually makes sense. If one had to seek the permission of every publisher in order to post helpful information, the internet would be totally emasculated.

Perhaps it would have been better for yingyang to have given credit to the source of his post, but then again commems did it for him...

And yes, I agree with you folks that find the eagle coin and the National Parks coins quite impressive! (I consulted my Printed in Canada 62nd Edition of the Charlton Catalogue of Canadian Coins, published in 2008, page 280.)

P.S. From the catalogue's COPYRIGHT NOTICE:

"...Permission is hereby given for brief excerpts to be used for purposes of reviewing this publication in newspapers, magazines, periodicals and bulletins, other than in the advertising of items for sale, provided the source of the material so used is acknowledged in each instance..."

P.P.S I think it's a great catalogue, as it's very comprehensive and informative.

Edited by NuMoosematist
02/24/2014 10:49 am
CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
Learn More...
commems's Avatar
United States
12252 Posts
 Posted 02/24/2014  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
We all can't be internet police.

No reason for the snide remark.

I was just looking out for the interests of CCF. Many of us recall the RCM's reaction to some users posting coin images prior to their public release and the resultant change in policy here at CCF.

While the current situation is different, who knows what the reaction the folks at Charlton might have if they continue to see images of pages from their copyrighted catalogs posted here?

I'm not trying to limit the exchange of info, just trying to help protect the owners of CCF.


Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
Pillar of the Community
arianzo's Avatar
Canada
2124 Posts
 Posted 02/24/2014  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In this forum (CCF) very often we encourage people to buy Charlton books so in fact, we are doing promotion of his work.
Pillar of the Community
Anjohl's Avatar
Canada
815 Posts
 Posted 02/24/2014  4:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anjohl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a huge difference between stating something might offend the owners of a site, and saying something is not allowed. Many times, extralegal authorities blur the line between what their rules are, and what the law is.
Pillar of the Community
poboxw's Avatar
Canada
1502 Posts
 Posted 02/25/2014  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin and matching pictures. I love how the entire reverse face is used for the scene, with no text save for the artist's initials to distract from the magnificence. The design reminds me of many other national/provincial parks on both sides of the border east of the Rockies. Just beautiful.

Nice to see reviews like this. Thanks commems
  Previous TopicReplies: 27 / Views: 5,050Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.42 seconds to rattle this change. Forums