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 Posted 11/28/2014  1:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Lorens to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi
I do not know much about ancient coin. I got the coin from a relative and I hope that you guys could tell me something about it. I know that there are a lot of ancient coins on the marked and the coin is probably not worth much, but I hope that it at least isn't fake. It is quite cool if someone has held this coin like 2000 years ago :).

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 Posted 11/28/2014  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Depending on the size an weight this piece is supposed to be either a AR (silver) Tetradrachm or a dekadrachm Sicily. If it's real which IMO is doubtful it would most likely be the tetradrahm. There are others here that know more about this type than I do, I'm sure they will be along shortly to check it out.
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 Posted 11/28/2014  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome.
Not sure if the edge isn't showing a seam, which would be a bad thing. Any chance you can post the size in mm and the weight in grams? If you only have the kitchen scales, that will do as an approximation.
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 Posted 11/28/2014  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lorens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
14 gram with an kitchen scale, for size see the picture below:

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pishpash; where do you see a seam I can take more pictures if you want?
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 Posted 11/28/2014  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lorens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I tested a couple of times and it vary from 14 to 16g
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 Posted 11/28/2014  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josephrg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the coin is real it is a valuable coin so it is worth researching. Would need better photos of the edges to check for a seam or file marks.
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 Posted 11/28/2014  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lorens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, I have taken some better images of the edges

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 Posted 11/28/2014  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topcat7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Hi, Lorens - Welcome

The latest photos don't show up on my screen?
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 Posted 11/28/2014  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lorens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, I might stick around :)

I don't see it either, but it worked a couple of minutes ago. I post the link instead.

http://s23.postimg.org/v8fjbf6fd/oldcoin2.jpg
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 Posted 11/28/2014  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lorens, in the original post, bottom picture of the edge, on the left hand side there is a dark mark which might be a seam. It is hard to tell. Can you post other pictures of the edge?

Edit: Sorry, I did not see your last post.
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11/28/2014 5:23 pm
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 Posted 11/28/2014  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augustus1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We don't really need photos of the edge. It is certainly a modern reproduction.
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 Posted 11/28/2014  5:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think there is a possibility that it might be plated. The edge does look as though there is bronze showing through, and on the obverse, left hand side near the edge, there seems to be bronze there also. Difficult to tell from pictures.
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 Posted 11/28/2014  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Valecrucis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Greetings Lorens!

Please read my disclaimer, but -

I am 99.9% certain this coin is a fake. The 0.1% is down to the possibility that I am suffering a moment's profound stupidity. Which in all honesty might be slightly higher than 0.1%, but nonetheless.

The style of the design and shape of the flan do not look genuine to me, but the clincher is the weight and diameter. It has a weight lighter than a tetradrachm, which should be 17.15g, give or take, but a diameter of a decadrachm. This makes it impossibly thin. I suspect it can't really qualify as a counterfeit...more a replica or tourist piece....given its divergence from an original.

I am NOT any kind of expert, but if I am correct then I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If I am wrong, then sorry for seeming so certain about something which I am no expert.

EDIT: Oops. Sorry to echo Augustus1. I lost Internet connection and had to await its return b4 posting the above...in the interim other messages appeared.
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11/28/2014 5:44 pm
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 Posted 11/28/2014  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where is FR when you need him, he can spot a fake at a thousand paces :)

I tend to agree with VC, although I am no expert either. Even if it is fake, I would be happy to own it as an interesting curiosity. Don't be tempted to clean it. If I were you, I would keep it as a "lucky" piece. I don't suppose your relative can give you any extra information?
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 Posted 11/28/2014  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry AugustusI, I didn't see your post either. Strange things going on...
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 Posted 11/28/2014  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lorens to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think you guys are right, it was fun as long as it lasted :)
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