Full Diamonds And Indian Head Pennies

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Twentycent Valued Member United States 187 Posts	Posted 11/09/2005 01:10 am What does this actually mean? How many diamonds are there? Where exactly are they anyway? Jerry Report this Post to the Staff

adobero1 Valued Member United States 363 Posts	Posted 11/09/2005 01:21 am I think the diamonds are on the Indian's headband which hangs down by the hair (obverse) and near the back of the neck. If you happen to have the latest RedBook they are shown in closeup in the picture on page 111. I think the full diamonds means a strong strike just like full bands and full bell lines on other issues. I hope this is right, I'm going from memory! Report this Post to the Staff
Twentycent Valued Member United States 187 Posts	Posted 11/09/2005 01:39 am Well, what's around the neck? Does anybody know what type of beads or rocks they are suppose to be? Jerry Edited by Twentycent 11/09/2005 01:45 am Report this Post to the Staff
adobero1 Valued Member United States 363 Posts	Posted 11/09/2005 08:45 am Ah, that I don't know. I guess that's anyone's guess. Maybe those are described in the Judd book on patterns which might talk in more detail about Longacre's design. Actually, I don't know why I said headband earlier. It's really more of a ribbon that hangs down from the Indian's headdress on which the diamonds are located. Report this Post to the Staff
catman Rest in Peace United States 954 Posts	Posted 11/09/2005 11:33 am Twentycent, There are four diamonds on the ribbon in the design. However these are known to be weakly struck so if you find one with all four diamonds showing you will have a well struck coin all over. Don't worry it's easy to see and will stick out at you. Caution. Many dealers will claim that the diamonds are weakly struck to cover up wear and for the coin being a lower grade than it really is. catman Report this Post to the Staff
Twentycent Valued Member United States 187 Posts	Posted 11/09/2005 11:39 am Wow! Thanks for the help. I didn't even know that it wasn't even a Indian woman. Jerry Report this Post to the Staff
tradernick Valued Member United States 138 Posts	Posted 11/09/2005 9:33 pm Typically if the coin is XF or better the diamonds will be sharp but there are certainly weak strikes out there. If you're looking at a coin that you suspect is ok but weakly struck, closely examine the LIBERTY. It should be very bold and strong, even on most weakly struck issues. If the diamonds are weak AND LIBERTY is weak, it's likely a wear issue and not a strike problem. Hope this helps, tradernick Report this Post to the Staff
Twentycent Valued Member United States 187 Posts	Posted 11/09/2005 9:38 pm This is great. Thanks again! Jerry Report this Post to the Staff
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