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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
12/30/2017 11:49 pm
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United States
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You like that 85, eh? I have one just like it for sale just for you. Headed out to the garage to find that dam spray can.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I do like the 96. A lot. I would pay 300 for the 85. I couldn't pay $1,900 for a common date morgan.
IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.comEdited by numismatic student
12/31/2017 12:11 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Both look AT to me.
Someone try to grill that 85 along with a steak and eggs.
I really don't like either one...
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
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They both look NT. The 85 is a bit wild for my taste, but I'm sure there are those who love it. I'd say MS-65 on them both.
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just $1,895. Just - LOL. |
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Someone try to grill that 85 along with a steak and eggs.
Oh Yeah - it looks just like the diamond shaped grill plate on a gas burner grill!  |
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Do the NT toners want to stick with their opinions?
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Rest in Peace
United States
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The '96 looks like a Wayte Raymond board toner and the '85 an end of roll toner. No doubt whatsoever than the '96 is market acceptable especially with the date pull-away. The '85 looks a bit extreme but the seller may have tweaked the image a bit (too much. Note the change in background color). Still market acceptable in my opinion.
Both look like MS65, maybe MS66 for the '85. Both would carry a premium for the toning but $1895 seems like a ticket to the moon money.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I agree with Dave. 96 is natural tone, without question. There is no way to speed up toning like that, especially considering the reverse. The tonal range is as it should be.
Makes 65, well worth $400.
I won't even discuss the other over priced wire tone.
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I like the '96 better than the '85. $1,895 is too much in my opinion, especially for that ugly toning on the '85. I wouldn't want to buy that coin for $1,895, as I personally don't like how it looks.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The '96 is inteeresting, don't care for the '85 at all.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I have to agree with the above, but would also caveat that buying these advanced state toners is better done with the coin in-hand. It is far too easy to manipulate contrast and color saturation to make the toning look much more vibrant and colorful than it is in reality. The exception would be for, say, Sunnyvale/Simpson-pedigreed examples.
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Neither have many marks. For the first, it looks like it could make MS-65, and I would think market-acceptable toning. As for the second one, the toning kind of reminds me of the one on this coin (and I do like the toning on that one). Even so, I think it would be interesting to see that 1885 coin in a different picture. And for the grade, I would be at MS-66 with market-acceptable toning. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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As can be seen from the coloring on the slabs, the pictures were taken under a blacklight to bring out the color. Still wish I had a shot at the 1896.  This one sold already on best offer.  IN NECESSARIIS UNITAS - IN DUBIIS LIBERTAS - IN OMNIBUS CARITAS THE MAN IN THE ARENA, Theodore Roosevelt at the Sorbonne Paris on April 23, 1910: " It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat." My coin website: https://fairfaxcoins.com |
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