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Press Manager
 United States
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NGC - A close examination of the date area reveals the true nature of this piece.Read More: Counterfeit Detection SeriesIn 1879, the Carson City Mint struck 756,000 Morgan silver dollars. While that may seem like a lot, it is a lower mintage than 80% of Morgan dollar issues. In fact, the 1879-CC Morgan dollars make up only 0.12% of all Morgan dollars ever struck.  Due to this rarity, the 1879-CC Morgan dollars are very popular with collectors today and command a hefty premium as a semi-key in the series. NGC graders recently received this submission. As you can see from the photos above, the coin submitted for grading appears to be essentially flawless. In fact, it almost has the look of a more-modern issue rather than a 141-year-old coin. This is because that's exactly what it is. This is a very modern counterfeit that just has the "look" of a coin struck from dies almost certainly made using Computer Aided Design (CAD). Read the Entire Article |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The CC mintmark looks wonky. That would be the first sign of a fake IMO.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The obverse alone raises the "too good to be true" alarm.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5765 Posts |
Just curious if the small die dots around the individual numbers are a pickup for the counterfeit. I'm not real familiar with Morgans (especially high grade) but we don't see those dots on Lincolns. (Or are those dots something else?)
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New Member
United States
48 Posts |
Wow, usually Morgan fakes are pretty bad, but at arm's length that one is pretty convincing.
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Valued Member
United States
277 Posts |
Have to say this is pretty scary that fakes this good can be made. For seasoned collectors, sure this might be an obvious fake, but I would have needed to look very closely at this coin to determine it was a fake. Are grading services able to tell counterfeits made this well are fake?
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Valued Member
United States
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The little dots are referred to as granularity. If you take the time to examine your coins closely you will very rarely find a genuine coin with this feature. Additionally, as someone posted, this coin is to good to be true.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I've got a 1964 Peace dollar from the moonlight mint and it's just scary good. If I didn't know it was a fantasy piece I'd swear it was genuine. Of course, he strikes them over real Peace dollars which helps. For this coin, the counterfeiter didn't even bother using silver but rather "struck in an alloy of 65% copper, 24% zinc, 8% nickel, 2% manganese and only 1% silver". And of course MS-68 examples don't just show up after 140 years with no provenance. Edited by fenton
05/11/2020 01:02 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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What is sad is that this $10 novelty is meant to fool the buyer into thinking that this is a $50,000 coin. One case where buying the slabber's experience is worth it.
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Valued Member
Canada
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It is unfortunate that people counterfeit this stuff. They should apply their skills to a normal profession and contribute to the world rather than trash someone else's hobby.
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