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1947 C Newfoundland 5 Cent

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 Posted 02/16/2009  1:18 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ASUTodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Got this off the E of Bay the other night for a low 10 bucks.. mintage of only 38,400... nice pick up if I do say so myself!

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 Posted 02/16/2009  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buzzard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I like it. These maritime issues seem to be very affordable in comparison to their low mintage numbers. There must be comparative few collectors out there.

Your avatar is an eye-catcher, too.
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 Posted 02/16/2009  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KurtS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
I think this the "wide date" variety for 1947, which carries a premium in my catalog.
I collect NFLD coins too, and find them very difficult to grade from pics.
Your particular example has a nice strike with intact denticles (often mushy in the 40s).
A detail of the crown might better indicate grade, but I'm leaning towards EF--or better?
My Charest 2008 Catalogue lists the wide date at CAD$17.50 in EF40.
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 Posted 02/16/2009  5:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's hard to grade Newfoundland coins from pics but, I would also say EF for a grade.

Also, the Canadian Coin News has EF @ $25.00
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 Posted 02/17/2009  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malibu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
would anyone try cleaning this coin, either with a good olive oil soaking or careful, gentle soap and water cleaning? The dirt is not that old and it looks to me like it might come off without damaging the lustre...or am I nuts?

Nice find BTW and I'd give it a EF-45 or AU-50; there is little wear anywhere and 8 clear pearls on the crown rim. Gorgeous!
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 Posted 02/17/2009  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think olive oil would do much on a silver coin, but one might try a quick soak in acetone.
If there's surface grime, that might loosen it--but I wouldn't attempt to remove the dirt in "5 CENTS 1947"
Even if that were carefully removed (a risky affair nonetheless), the underlying surface might be brighter and look cleaned.
This particular George VI bust wears differently than the KGV bust, and I would define an AU by the presence of the small jewels on the crown rim, just visible in the photo below.
That's the first detail to go with wear, along with high points of the hair near the ear. Those details might be there on your coin--I can't tell from the pic. Nice one!

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OK, in an attempt to get a better image....well... I took another one! I gave the coin a quick dip in Acetone and used a qtip to roll the crud out from in between the letters and such. Most came off but some didn't. The reason the coin looked "washed out" or without luster was because it had some film on it which I think was part of the crud. Either way, I also took the picture at an angle to get the light reflecting off of it more. Not sure I did any better with this picture or not... but it is what it is...

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 Posted 02/17/2009  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ASUTodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The jewels are on the crown rim but it has two small dings on the obverse near the "G" in "GRA".... There is also a line, I wouldn't say scratch, under teh "Cents" on the reverse... Not sure what it is... it isn't a die crack.... maybe something going on with the die when struck?

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Regarding the line on the reverse under "CENTS", a lot of these have raised polish/tooling marks in that area.
Based on what I see around the crown, I think your coin is probably an AU50-55.
It also looks like you got a little dirt off without doing anything obvious.
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 Posted 03/01/2009  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add malibu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Trends puts the AU-50 at $55, not bad for a $10 ebay find!
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 Posted 03/01/2009  11:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a nice looking coin! Much better for the cleaning in my opinion, but then I'm a big fan of that. (Shhh! don't tell anyone, they'll have me kicked off the forum!)

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 Posted 03/01/2009  1:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ASUTodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well I think that acetone is an acceptable practice for most folks. I wouldn't put it in a harsh cleaner or take a brilo pad to it!
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I love the Newfoundland coins. The low mintages it seems to me would make them more valuable then they are. I tried selling some 50 cent pieces in vg condition at my coin club meeting yesterday and got no reponse. I was only asking $7 each. Was this to much? What are they selling for in Canada? Thanks for any info. Olmanjon
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Olmanjon, Trends has them at $7.00 in VG for 1904-1919, but most sales are based on Trends less 25-40% depending on demand. If you're sure of the grade, $5 might get some interest. Are your grades based on what the guy who sold them to you claimed?
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No they weren't. Actually I traded a couple of 2-1/2 dollar us gold pieces for a collection of new foundland and canadian large cents and these were among the sets. I am a conservative grader and graded these myself. Grading didn't seem to be the problem-just a complete lack of interest at this coin club. I am going to take some of them down to my other coin club next sunday and try again. By the way I just sold all of the 50 cent pieces for what I was asking. This person is a member here-perhaps he will comment on the conditions when he receives them. Olmanjon
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