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Counterfeit Detection: 1883-CC Morgan Dollars Bad PCGS Slabs

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Jack Young - This article presents two more recent listings-purported 1883-CC Morgan dollars-from a Chinese bad seller of counterfeit "coins" in fake "PCGS" slabs. The first example has some of the best seller images I have seen for these, but things go sideways pretty quickly upon further review!

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Those familiar with genuine PCGS slabs will notice at least one thing missing:

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Counterfeit 1883-CC Morgan dollar in fake PCGS slab

And then there is the barcode:

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But, most importantly, there is the "coin".

Attributing it (always my first step) to known genuine specimens ("VAMS") shows a unique example for this date's Carson City mint mark location/placement:

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1883-CC Morgan dollar mintmark comparisons vs. subject example.

And comparing it to the known common reverse used for all years of these counterfeits (like the 1881-CC), you see common features:

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Counterfeit 1883-CC Morgan dollar diagnostics. Image: Jack Young.

Unfortunately, the online cert used for this one is no help, as there are no images of the genuine example.

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Looking through the PCGS auction archive, however, turns up another example with a different cert.

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Clicking "original lot" shows this example:

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And this one does have an online cert image:

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Comparing this bad example to the genuine one (on the right) yields these images:

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Swing and another miss!

Comparing both counterfeit Morgan reverses, we see the same bad mintmark location and major flaw:

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And the "punch line".

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Read More: Counterfeit Detection Series

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