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PM sent but it seems that Scooby Due was online when the question was set.
I do not think that this is a fair way to end a contest that has been running for months but never mind it was fun.
Congratulations Scooby Due
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So what is the 'correct' answer to this last question about the 'nationality' of Mr. Yale. I haven't been in the running for this in a month but it has been fun to follow and this last question is very interesting to me.  |
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In 1718, the College was renamed Yale College to honor a gift from Elihu Yale, a governor of the British East India Company.
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yep, know that. But the question was about his 'nationality' in quotation marks. That's the part I'm waiting to unfold
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British East India Company I'm thinking Australian?  Edited by Scooby Due
09/22/2010 2:34 pm
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or was he? I think he was Welsh.
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Here is an extract from http://www.library.yale.edu/mssa/YH...history.htmlOver time the out-of-the-way location proved to be unpopular. In 1716, the site was moved to New Haven, whose citizens had outbid all other communities in both land and money to support the college. In 1718, when wealthy London merchant Elihu Yale- step grandson of Theophilus Eaton, co-founder of the New Haven colony- donated over 400 books, a portrait of King George I, and cloth goods that sold for 562 pounds, the college was named Yale College.I assume that being a London Merchant he was English but I might be wrong. I will do some more research. |
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not that I put 100% trust in everything I read but here is a snipet from wiki:
Yale's ancestry can be traced back to the family estate at Plas yn Iâl near the village of Llandegla, Denbighshire, Wales.[2] The name Yale is the English spelling of the Welsh place name, Iâl.
He was Welsh by ancestory, born in Boston...but what is his nationality. A trick question perhaps?
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Interesting.  Maybe we both got it wrong and there will be another question! |
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or MAYBE, I come from behind, out of nowhere and streak across the finish line, hands waving wildly over my head, screaming "I won, I won" at the top of my lungs... or wait, that was just a dream I had a few weeks back. Never mind!
Seriously, I have no idea what the 'correct' answer is. I don't know how citizenship vs. a person's ancestry affected their 'nationality' in the 1600's.
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That's a good question. We'll see what the judges think. |
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The plot thickens
Elihu Yale was born in Boston Massachusetts (Boston being part of Clonial America at that time would make him English by Birth).
His father's family did indeed cone from Wales so that would probably make him Welsh by descent.
However his mother's family (Family name LLoyd) came from Chshire in England (despite the Welsh sounding name) which could also have made him English.
He lived most of his life in London where he died but was buried in St. Giles Churchyard in Wrexham Wales.
The epitaph on his tombstome which he composed himself reads
Born in America, in Europe bred
In Africa travell'd and in Asia wed
Where long he liv'd and thriv'd; In London dead
Much good, some ill, he did; so hope all's even
And that his soul thro' mercy's gone to Heaven
You that survive and read this tale, take card
For this most certain exit to prepare
where blest in peace, the actions of the just
Smell sweet and blossom in silent dust.
So in my opinion he was really mot just English nor Welsh but truly
A MAN OF THE WORLD[/b]
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I've not seen a reply here to who won or what the answer that was expected. I hope I didn't upset anyone by asking about the answer. I meant no harm.
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