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1771 Austrian Netherlands 1/2 Thaler

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 Posted 06/19/2026  10:35 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add PMCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have this Belgian States (Austrian Netherlands) coin from 1771. It appears to be a 1/2 Kronenthaler based on the inscriptions. However, the size and weight do not match the KM #19.
The diameter should be 35 mm with a weight of 14.72 g.

Mine has a diameter of 33 mm and a weight of 13.6 g. The damage on the front also looks strange since it almost appears as if it is a plated coin and the silver has peeled off in various places.

Is this an old well worn forgery or something else?

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If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck ...
(or if it weighs like a fake, and peels like a fake ...)

That said, many of the details that are still visible look pretty good (like the mis-aligned C in COM). Well worn samples I can find at auction are not less than 14.3 gr., but if there is a achunk of metal missing as on yours ...
Is the edge inscribed?
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Yes the edge is inscribed. Well worn on one side edge, but still inscribed.
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Might be interesting to get a density.
I've never seen a delamination look so smooth. That leads one to wonder about a plated base metal fake, which should have a lower density.
I don't know enough about forgeries to know if copying an edge inscription is easy (or not).
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Whatever the core is, it is not magnetic. However it does not seem as soft as lead. In any case it is obviously fake because in the small center section the silver is currently peeling off in a very thin layer.

From another search I have found that the 1771 is usually counterfeit with crude edge inscriptions. So that seems to be what I inherited. Someone must have had a good die in those days to have this detail.
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A contemporary fake that circulated. Very collectible.
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