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Hopefully this is in the proper forum. I just saw BOOK and went with it....... https://www.greysheet.com/ https://www.greysheet.com/publicati...ns-blue-bookI recently got these in email about the sale of the 2027 Red and Blue Books. Just wondering your opinions on them. What exactly do you use them for? Are they reliable for prices, and/or for how long as I've read and heard where they lose reliability the day they are produced. And I can never remember which is which - is it RED for collectors and BLUE for Dealers? And is that Buying or Selling, or Both? Cain't wait to read your replies! 
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Quote: I just saw BOOK and went with it Perfect logic--you picked the right spot for this thread!
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Quote: Perfect logic--you picked the right spot for this thread! Thank you Spence! Now I feel better - 
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Bedrock of the Community
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Red is the collector's edition. As for the quoted prices, I've heard that "red is retail and blue is wholesale".
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Pillar of the Community
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The prices is both are actually not terrible, are they 100% accurate? Not really but they are in the ball park. Use them as a guide, something like grey sheet is a better bet for dealer pricing but grey sheet is expensive.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The Red Book is an excellent source of information about U.S. coinage. A bit of history, some grading information, mintage numbers, etc. Information on nearly all, if not all U.S, coin series, a must have for collectors. Now that the Red Book is part of the Greysheet publishing network, their prices are fairly accurate for the retail market at the time of publication.
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Valued Member
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Interesting bits of information. Thanks.
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So what are the main reason these books are being sold? Seems more like just a collectable? Seems with all the information on the internet that you can access with your phone who would really use them?
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So what are the main reason these books are being sold? Seems more like just a collectable? Seems with all the information on the internet that you can access with your phone who would really use them? Take everything you read on the internet with a grain of salt, who is the author, what is the source? Something like the red book/blue book are written by professionals and vetted by an editorial staff. I would trust the red/blue book more than a random person on the internet.
Edited by hfjacinto Yesterday 7:56 pm
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Valued Member
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Well I don't mean "Joe Shmo" posting Youtube Videos obviously........I take what Frank Weinberg, Mark Feld, etc...........as very credible information. Plus what's wrong with using internet information like mintage numbers, pictures of error coins, PCGS photo grading page, looking up top tier slab cert numbers, and other pertinent information instead of carrying a book around with you?
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Bedrock of the Community
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JennyCents, you're right. Physical books are getting to be an inconvenience. Although I have copies of the Krause manuals for my world coins, it's so much easier to look up information on Numista. And that goes the same for the Red Book too. And I can't drag around every possible book with me to shows and meeting. But my phone can easily access that information online. As for the Blue Book, it just so happens that I won a copy of the 2026 - 83rd Edition in our coin club's raffle this week. Here's what it says about the prices in it: Quote:The values shown here are representative prices paid by dealers for various United States coins. These are averages of prices assembled from many widely separated sources.
Inordinately fascinated by bits of metal with strange markings and figures
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Right HondoB,now that's what I'm talking about. Which brings me back to one of my original questions, what do people actually use these books for?
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The books were both originally intended for use by coin dealers; the Blue Book was wholesale price - the price a dealer would reasonably pay you to buy the coin. The Red Book was retail prices - the price a dealer would reasonably offer the coin for sale at. The difference in price between Blue and Red would be the dealer's reasonable profit margin. Historically, the books were used to provide an authoritative, neutral point of view about the dealer's buy and sell prices. If someone came into the shop and asked how much would the dealer give for Coin X, the dealer could point to Coin X in the Blue Book and say "that's how much". The book says it, can't argue with the book. Likewise, if someone questioned "why is Coin X in your cabinet display being sold for that price", the dealer could pick up the Red Book and point to the Coin X entry there. The books are somewhat anachronistic today, being that they date from a time when coin price information didn't change all that much over the course of a year; the concept certainly predates the rapid movement in precious metal prices we see in the modern world. Prices in the books are also a "best guess" by the writers as to where prices might be in the future, since the books (again, historically) take some time between data collation and actually getting printed. The authors are humans, not prophets; sometimes they guess wrong. Are they still used? Well, for smaller dealers probably. They're also a handy guide for overall price rises; if the Red Book prices in a certain series have all gone up 5% since the previous year, then bumping your ticket prices by 5% would be a reasonable action. The books also offer some kind of grounding in reality for someone relying wholly on past online sales for accurate pricing. If the top 5 ebay sales for a certain coin all say it's worth $2499, and the Red and/or Blue Books say it's worth 25 cents, then it's safe to conclude those ebay sales are scams.
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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