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1985 $1 Coin....please Help!

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 Posted 10/17/2011  04:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gecko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok that does it next one I come across I am keeping too!
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 Posted 10/17/2011  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin rolling machines often damage the 2 end coins in a roll, but it's usually easily identifiable for what it is. There's a circular 'scrape' around the edges of the surface, but I rarely see one coin that has is on both sides, in fact I can't recall that I've ever seen one damaged on both sides.

I can't say what happened to the pictured coin, but I do feel that it's most likely PMD.

povman, Any chance of a couple real good sharp close ups of a section of the area in question on each side? It might help one of our more 'expert' members to explain what caused the rings.
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 Posted 10/17/2011  10:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gecko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nancyc,
I have a couple of coins with damage to both sides of the coin, they get put into rolls that often that some are bound to get put on either end of a roll one time or another or in my case both.

But looking forward to seeing how this pans out.
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 Posted 10/18/2011  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Its not Rolling Machine Damage, because from what I have seen, that tends to start from the highest points of the coin, and scrape into the surface of the coin. The picture does not appear to show any damage to the high points (particularly the kangaroo's ear).
Incidentally I found a really, really nice 1971 5 cent today - except for the big rolling machine scrapes :(
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 Posted 10/18/2011  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Concerned to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here a some close ups of one I kept if that helps anyone identify what it is


1985-$1-Coin....please-Help!

1985-$1-Coin....please-Help!

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 Posted 10/18/2011  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nevol to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone with an old one of these, please humour me by getting a very soft pencil eraser (DATS PLASTIC or Staedtler RASOPLAST or similar) and seeing if the mark/stain will rub off, and let us know the result.

It's got me a bit intrigued to find out just what it is.

Now I've got to try and find one so I can experiment on it myself.

I've probably had heaps of them and just tossed them back assuming they were rolling machine damaged.
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 Posted 10/18/2011  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am still thinking "mechanical pencil"
If the tip of the pencil (which the "lead" comes out of) was run around the inside of the rim of the coin, then there would be a gap between the rim and the mark (as we see).
I tried to find a pencil to try this with last night, but could only find one where the metal tip was wide and could retract, so I did not think it would work at positioning the mark away from the edge of the rim.
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 Posted 10/19/2011  05:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Concerned to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wasn't going to admit to this but seeing as you asked NancyC, I did attack another one with an eraser thinking it was pencil and it didn't remove it. With the other one I found (the one I rubbed with an eraser then put back into the bank bag)the line was closer to the rim and seemed thicker.
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 Posted 10/19/2011  07:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thesandpit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen this on unc coins too.
My current hypothesis is that this happened in the upsetting machine as the rims were being put on the planchets.
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 Posted 10/19/2011  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add floridapalms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1984 and 1985 kangaroo $1 well circulated,most show this outline,move along nothing to see here....
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 Posted 10/19/2011  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ozcoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Edit. Sorry all. Just realised I should have started a new topic for the question I raised. I will start a new topic.
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 Posted 11/19/2011  8:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add povman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry I haven't posted for a while, been O/S, just wanted to thank everyone for their input and to let you know, I tried the eraser trick and the line is still there... Seems that they aren't anything special though..

Thanks again people, much appreciated.

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 Posted 04/25/2024  01:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yabewon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also found one. I'm keeping it. Too many the same. Must have been a minting error.
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@povman to the community. Nothing else to add.
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I have just noodled through a bag of $1 coins. Found a few 85s with the rings. Tried scratching it off with a thumb nail but did not remove much. Could not detect any difference in the surface where the ring was. Tried soaking in acetone but no change. Tried a soaking in coca-cola and a scrub with a toothbrush afterwards but some of the ring still remained. Don't know what it is. Did not find any similar rings on any other coins in the bag of 500 coins. Would be curious to know why only the 1985 coins and what it is?
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