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1953 Proof Like Set?

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I recently purchased what was described as a 1953 proof like set. It's in a capital holder, and the coins are clearly uncirculated, but how can I tell if they're from an actual Royal Canadian Mint 1953 proof like set, or if they're simply uncirculated business strikes?
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Here are some pics. Click on the pictures for full size..

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 Posted 12/13/2011  5:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TNG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a super set! However I can't help you with an answer.
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I cannot tell, but that is an amazingly beautiful set, how much did you pay...
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business strike maybe, I'm not sure
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business strike maybe, I'm not sure


Why do you think so?

I'm sure many PL sets from 1953 to 1960 ended up in this type of holder (or similar). The mint issued them in cheap cardboard holders wrapped in cellophane many of which fell apart over time. Problem is, I have no clue how to tell the difference
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Actually I take that back... It looks proof like to me because it has a different looking finish then my 1953 buisness MS-63 silver dollar. But I'm not an expert so I may be wrong
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Those coins all look PL to me, the business strikes have a dull finish that's more or less uniform. The PL strikes have contrasting devices. Even the better business strikes aren't that reflective/contrasting as what is showing your picture.
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It could be a partial set of 1953 NSF Proof-like set, but the 25c is definitely business strike (as well as being a SF). The 1-cent is also missing that usual 'proof-like mirror fields', but it is hard to tell with the toning. Typically, the 1953 1-cent coins will tone a deep wine colour, but still retain that mirror-like lustre...
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I actually thought the same about the twenty five cent piece, but open a roll and see how many business strikes carry that contrasting cameo on the lettering - I think it's just from a different set.
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It looks like a PL set to me. I've had sets in cardboard celophane offered for sale to me but did not buy them because they were not near as nice as those.
I can see parcial frosting on some of the coins. (PL), only circ finish has brilliant relief against a satin background.
The only other possibility is that it was a put together set. It still looks good though.
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Not a PL set, look at the bag marks on the dollar. These 1953 sets rarely have specimen or true PL COINS IN THEM. the mint sold sets such as these in cardboard holders as early as 1949 ( or in small boxes with cello pouches for the coins) It was really hit and miss to get specimen or PL coins in those offerings. NEVER EVER pay huge for a 1953 cardboard set that someone calls PL , likely it will not be!
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So is it just a buisness strike?
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YUP! in my humble opinion. The 1953 PL coins I have sold are usually quite well struck and spectacular. I certified a dollar and ten cent as well as a steel 5 cent and you needed sunglasses!
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thanks for the info 54dollarcoin, just learned something new
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54dollarcoin,you are absolutely right,the 1953 sets can contain anywhere from 0 to 6 PL coins,and I believe closer to 0 is the norm.I once paid the big money for a cardboard set,took it to a reputable dealer for sumission to ICCS and was told the facts about 1953 sets,and that in my set only the nickel was a likely PL candidate,the rest were all business strikes,expensive lesson learned.
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