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 Posted 05/24/2005  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I said in an earlier post, when I have questioned sellers about this practice, some have just said I don't work for free and trips to the P.O. cost money! I have actually saved most of these e-mails because I don't like the blatant rip-offs like the ill packaged 37 cent envelope that cost $3.00 to $5.00! At some point I want to put together a complaint to ebay about this practice. Mike
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 Posted 05/24/2005  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately, I can tell you now that ebay will never do anything about this practice because this falls under the category of part of the transaction between the buyer and seller that doesn't break any laws. The only reason they have any rules in place at all was a CYA tactic because of the federal laws governing our country regarding fraud and counterfeits and to be able to capitalize on a partnership with the ANA.
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 Posted 06/01/2005  08:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Seems over at the other forum, members are getting tired of my postage thread. All I can say to them that if they don't like it, don't open it. Seems they are trying to change my mind that $5.00 is ok for a coin sent loose in a 37 cent stamped envelope. I just don't understand them.
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 Posted 06/01/2005  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We all have our opinions and my opinion is that they're wrong. I've read the thread you're talking about and it has been my experience that questions involving ebay are not necessarily welcome over there.
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 Posted 06/01/2005  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have to take into consideration that the vast majority of forum users are also ebay users, and for whatever reason, they continue to make excuses for any action on ebay. While it is true that it costs money to go to the post office, it doesn't have to be profitable. I am a coin dealer, I make money selling coins. I do not have to over charge for my time going to the post office. As a matter of FACT, the post office will come to you. It seems as if the people who are attempting to make money on shipping do so because that have NO CLUE how to sell coins. There are quite a few here on this forum that will tell you that I constantly lose money on shipping. Losing 50 cents to a dollar on shipping is well worth the customer. If you take care of your customer they come back to you over and over. It is simply good business.
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 Posted 06/01/2005  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SFDukie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi David,
I don't post over there very often, and I visited the thread and posted because you mentioned it here. I think several of the comments are unfair to you and others, and there seems to be some "piling on". I agree that it is more than reasonable to expect more than a simple envelope and 37C stamp for a $5 S&H fee. It would have been nice to leave fb noting the shipping quality so that others benefit from your experience.
Don

ND, Bobby & Susan I'll laud your shipping and handling any day of the week!
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 Posted 06/01/2005  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add collect4fun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My feeling about S&H costs are that I just consider that cost in what I am willing to bid. If I am willing to spend $20 on a coin and shipping is $5, then I only bid $15. In turn if shipping is $1, then I bid $19.

I agree that anything over $1.50 - $2.00 for shipping of one coin is too much, sellers will make money some how, after all that is what they are doing by selling in the first place. I typically charge $1.50 - 2.00 for a coin, but I always put it into a 2x2, then a padded envelope, and is mailed with delivery confirmation.
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 Posted 06/01/2005  10:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe I should save myself from some grief and not go to the other forum anymore. Most there are making me out to be the bad guy.

David
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 Posted 06/01/2005  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wouldn't necessarily avoid the other forum, just recognize that, although they have some knowledgeable members as far as coins go, very few have extensive experience on ebay and therefore may not have the knowledge to respond to your questions.

Believe me when I tell you that your expectations are very reasonable and, regardless of how anyone is trying to make you feel, you are not the bad guy here.
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 Posted 06/02/2005  9:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Farstaff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen discussion on this subject at the other forum and I don't believe you should stay away from there. You have shared your opinion and others have shared theirs.
When I sell on ebay I clearly state the amount of postage is $4.50. This for US Postal Service Priority Mail with bubble pack, delivery comfirmed. That is my cost.
When I bid I also consider their shipping cost in my bid. If their shipping cost are less than what I paid, it is noted by me and I most likely will not buy from them again.
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 Posted 06/08/2005  12:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connecticoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by Farstaff

I have seen discussion on this subject at the other forum and I don't believe you should stay away from there. You have shared your opinion and others have shared theirs.
When I sell on ebay I clearly state the amount of postage is $4.50. This for US Postal Service Priority Mail with bubble pack, delivery comfirmed. That is my cost.
When I bid I also consider their shipping cost in my bid. If their shipping cost are less than what I paid, it is noted by me and I most likely will not buy from them again.




Priority Mail is a waste of money, especially if you are shipping only one or two coins.

For example, if you send a slabbed coin worth $100 in a #000 bubble mailer, it usually costs 60 or 83 cents for first class, plus $2.20 for insurance, for a total of $2.80 or $3.03 insured. Priority mail costs $3.85 plus insurance for a total of $6.05.

And, in my experience, first class is just as fast as Priority Mail.
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 Posted 06/08/2005  12:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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And, in my experience, first class is just as fast as Priority Mail.


Only in the same or next zone, because Priority and 1st class are pretty much transported the same way.

Priority Mail that is going farther than one zone away from you are 90% of the time carried by FedEx, not the PO. They do get there much faster than first class in this case.
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 Posted 06/08/2005  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reason I ship priority mail is because I will know the exact cost to ship whereas if I shipped first class, I wouldn't have a clue as what to charge. Plus Priority Mail boxes are free so I don't have to go out and pay a premium.
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 Posted 06/08/2005  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connecticoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coast to Coast, First Class usually takes 3 days, 4 days tops. (Sometimes 2 days -- for some reason Seattle to Connecticut is on a fast track). Priority Mail MIGHT be a day quicker, but $3 versus $6 is not worth the cost difference.

For one or two coins, the extra cost is not worth it. If all your packages are from 8 ounces to a pound, then it is a wash.

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 Posted 06/08/2005  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Well, we ship about 15-20 packages a day. We are on the east coast, 1st class to the west coast takes 5-7 days, where Priority takes 2-3. You must have a real good PO, consider yourself lucky.
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