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Pillar of the Community
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Ed,
He's intentionally burying little treasures for others to find for entertainment.
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New Member
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Just make sure that you don't tell any of your family where you hid your stash. Then if you suddenly died some lucky metal detector enthusiast will have a very successful and lucky find.  |
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He's intentionally burying little treasures for others to find for entertainment. If that makes him happy, that's fine. On the other hand, leaving a trail of bread crumbs like that could very well lead someone of low repute right to his home and any goodies that may be within. Hopefully, he will not be entertaining any uninvited guests.  |
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Friends Dad died, certain kids got certain stuff. One kid, got a map, and several large buried ammo boxes full of silver bars. Thought it was a neat story.
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One kid, got a map, and several large buried ammo boxes full of silver bars. Thought it was a neat story. Yes, that is a very cool story. The nice part is that the family silver hoard was not lost forever because the map was accidentally thrown out. Knowing his children as he did, I am sure that those bars went to the right one or ones. |
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Very interesting thread guys
I am thinking that the way you hide your stash has a lot to do with the reason you have a stash and who you are hiding it from.
If you think you'd need ready access to it, then a ground burial is not my first choice, nor is a bank deposit box since you need to wait for them to open. You would want it discreetly hidden within the house.
My own is primarily in a FP gun safe in the basement along with other valuables. But since I recognize that this would be the first target for thieves, whether they work for the Govt or are freelancers, there are definitely other locations as well , adhering to the rule of not keeping all my eggs in one basket.
Once sealed in airtight capsule, condensation is not a concern.
Someone worried about under insulation in the attic and whether that would be too hot - remember that it is on the side of the insulation where the temperature is modified so it would be close to room temperature. I doubt that temps would effect coins in any attic unless there were chemicals present as well.
In choosing my locations ( I am not sharing specifics) I think Fire, Govt agents, Thieves, and Tourists.
By Tourists, I mean house guests, tradesmen who might be working on the house, inquisitive children, etc.
For instance, when hiding an item over drop ceiling tiles, I need to consider whether a phone company tech or a plumber might need access to that area someday.
Also, if one is hiding from Govt agents, keep in mind that they have the worlds most sophisticated gear available for detection of what they are looking for. A dense metal like PM would need to be disguised as some structural element/part of the house.
To avoid suspicion if you bury in the yard, have a garden there and make a habit of enjoying your hobby of gardening.
If you are not into gardening you could take up bird watching and locate some "birdhouses" or a birdbath with concrete base that covers up your stash.
If you live back in the woods, you could have an outhouse with a stainless steel cable for fast access to your pod down in the hole.
If you like barbeque, build one from brick in the back yard and make a depository in it....
Be creative and THINK through the possibilities.
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Good post Piffin, I got a new idea or 2. BTW, my morning paper today:  |
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there are definitely other locations as well , adhering to the rule of not keeping all my eggs in one basket. This is terrific advice to anyone who is hiding a stash of valuables. This is exactly the same kind of logic as not putting all of your investments into one thing. If it isn't all in the same place, it is unlikely to be ruined by a single tragic event. Quote:
Once sealed in airtight capsule, condensation is not a concern. Except for the moisture in the air inside the capsule. That moisture can condense and could add to any corrosion problems that might occur via decomposition of the plastic container over time. If either Cl2 or HCl were released they could combine with the moisture and generate a corrosive liquid. Of course, if the capsule were pretty well filled up with PMs, then this should be less of a potential problem. Still, some people suggest putting a couple of those moisture absorbing baggies inside any such capsules meant for long-term underground storage. Or not... it's your stash, so do whatever you think best.  |
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Piffin makes some very good points! I think the number one thing here is you must think about why "You" want to hide your PMs and from "Whom". If there is one simple thing you can do to safeguard your PMs I would say that would be NOT TALK ABOUT THEM! There has been several incidents of PM theft in the last year or so. Of those that I have found that are not still under investigation, it seems all of them were folks that heard about the stash of PMs because they installed the safe, they did some work in/on the house, or the owner liked to show people the PMs he/she had. I have a very dear friend,(lives 2,000 miles away),and we keep one another informed of our PM stash, not how much, but just a basic location and how a family memeber might find/locate it if something happened to one of us. The way I look at it is I am pretty good at keeping my mouth closed. So a chance house burglery is most likely how someone will take my PMs. first I have a fake stash, a cigar box in the back of the closet or maybe a fake book in the book case, any common box that holds coins that look real/valuble......but are not, even heard of a zip-lock bag in the crapper tank! Ex: State Quarters that have been gold plated, copy coins of old silver dollars etc... that are placed in plastic holders, fake coins that are sealed and labeled as real gold/silver coins,(you get the idea!). Then I go to the thrift store and buy used mini safes, those small lock boxes no bigger than a shoe box but only if they are made of good thick steel. I drill out the old lock and get a new one from the hardware store. Often I will install a hasp and a good pad-lock on the outside. Then install this lock box to a heavy shelf and/or wall in your garage, attic, basement storage, etc.... and camo the lock box. Use a cardboard box cut out and slid over the lock box, mark the box "Taxes" or "Pictures" or whatever a thief would not waste time looking thru. My friend just put one in where he found a wire running in the garage. It was a power line to an outside light. He ran the power line through a fake fuse box and then secured a lock box inside the fake fuse box. Lock on the lock box and a pad-lock on the fuse box, it just looks like an extra fuse box for an outside light. (I know..... I'm a fool for telling you guys this much!). So, if one of your boxes is discovered the others are safe. Like someone else said, find out what your insurance will cover for theft and put about that much PM in each stash. A few here mentioned fire, but PMs are valuble because of their PM value....sure they may lose some value because they are no longer in pretty bars or rounds but a 100 oz. blob of silver is still 100 oz.s of silver. Also my local fireman says that on average a house fire burns at 1200 deg. for the first 20 minates and can go up to about 1700 deg. after an hour. Silver melts at 1,764 deg. and Gold at 1,948 deg. Thats about all I can think of right now. Good luck. |
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This topic got me to thinking about that somewhat forgotten 20th century invention, the time capsule. Most of the logistical problems, at least those related to preserving the contents of someone's buried stash, have been worked out in great detail. For example, the Florida Department of State has kindly gone so far as to post online how they recommend going about selecting a container, how to fill it, and then sealing it to survive the ages. Might be worth a quick read for anyone serious about burying their stash for safe keeping. |
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