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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Poll Question
So, since I have started watching gold and silver not too long ago, gold and silver have both gone up. But by what PERCENT? That's the REAL question.
Silver went from about $27 to $30 Gold has gone from about $1600 to $1670
Gold increased a lot more, but not by percent!
Silver increase: 11.1% Gold increase: 4.4%
I'm curious to know how things tend to go. This is such a short term look, as I have only looked for a few months. Is this typical? Is silver really that much better of an investment? What have the trends been in the past?
I look forward to the discussion!
Edited by Broseph 08/28/2012 11:04 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1119 Posts |
So far silver is the only one outta the gate. Just like in real life. Haha. J/k I hope.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1374 Posts |
I posted a video, which contains graphs for both long term gold and silver. Those are located at 9 minutes and 55 seconds. In the long term, you can tell that silver has not caught up to its high real price, while gold has. https://goccf.com/t/127860
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Valued Member
United States
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I suggest that neither gold or silver are good as an 'investment.' Neither gives dividends or have income. Gold and silver are both good stores of value and should be purchased for either a hobby or a hedge or insurance against an uncertain economic future. Silver is useful and can move because of its industrial uses whereas buying gold specifically is very similar to transferring money to a different currency. Some would say it's a commodity but how many central banks stockpile corn? Anyway...
To change your question: Which one would I buy? Given the ratio of gold/silver now, I'd choose silver. It's a more volatile ride than gold but I believe it has more upward potential.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
830 Posts |
I voted gold, not that I don't also hold silver, just more gold than silver in $ value. With the looming fiscal cliff and a possible depression when we go off it, I'm worried that silver industrial demand could suffer. I agree its not really an investment as much as a safer currency to hold in a time of currency devaluation by the central banks.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Since pretty much all I own is silver, it wasn't a tough choice ;)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2602 Posts |
Silver all the way! It's way undervalued compared to gold, probably due to silver manipulation by large banks.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: I suggest that neither gold or silver are good as an 'investment.' And yet, there is that pesky little 600% gain in gold in 10 years and about a 750% gain in silver during that same time. Hmmm. Not a good investment? Perhaps we can say that PMs are not always good investments but sometimes, they are! Off-hand, I can't think of a single investment that is good ALL the time, although there are a number of investments that are pretty darned good most of the time. As to dividends, there are silver and gold mining stocks that do pay dividends. We can also sell a small part of our PM holdings from time to time if we want a "dividend". Silver and gold do retain their buying power over time and sometimes increase substantially in price as well, so are a good store of value... unlike Federal Reserve Notes. The bottom line seems to be that gold and silver do have a place in anyone's investing strategy but that it is up to each of us to determine what is appropriate for us.
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Valued Member
United States
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I'm currently hoarding pure 99.9% Nickel World Coins and believe that their value and price will rise, examples are the France 1 Franc/2 Franc coins of the 1960s-1970s and netherlands Guilder coins of 1968-now. It was around $25 a pound a few years ago. As with silver, I've certainly lost some interest and will only accumulate more by coin roll hunting. Unless if I have enough money to buy a 10oz bar from a direct supplier like First Majestic, I won't be buying anymore 1oz ones as there are currently way too many fakes out there.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well put GerrodH and Ed_B!
As a long term investment, PMs are not historically the best bet. The key is feeling the swell before the storm, if possible. Short term moves is where money is made here.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Silver seems to have a lot more movement probably because of its ties to manufacturing so if you think you can figure out when to get in and when to get out and playing the movement can work. Gold has the tradition as the metal held by governments. Personally, I think picking just one is too hard and too error prone. Plus like with other investments it is really about the price you pay. It is also my impression that you pay a higher percentage premium on silver 1 oz. coins as opposed to gold but on the other hand if you can only buy fractional gold the premiums there are also high.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I voted other. Generally, gold and other precious metals are a more difficult investment then more traditional investment vehicles like stocks and the like. Not saying that stocks will always be better then gold, but in terms of liquidity, it is a lot easier to find a buyer for stocks when you go to sell then it is for gold. Also, while gold has had an impressive rise in the past 5 years, the 30 years before that were extremely under-performing.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Quote: It is also my impression that you pay a higher percentage premium on silver 1 oz. coins as opposed to gold From a % standpoint that is true. But the premiums on gold from a dollar standpoint is higher.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I prefer silver as it is undervalued, regarding your questions of:
"I'm curious to know how things tend to go. This is such a short term look, as I have only looked for a few months. Is this typical? Is silver really that much better of an investment?"
Silver tends to go up faster then gold but also down faster then gold when the time comes, I personally don't see much more growth in gold, hence why I prefer silver, just my opinion though
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Not saying that stocks will always be better then gold, but in terms of liquidity, it is a lot easier to find a buyer for stocks when you go to sell then it is for gold. It helps to compare apples to apples here. If you buy a physical silver or gold ETF, it is no more or less difficult to sell than any stock or ETF. A better comparison to holding physical gold is to hold physical stocks! As in having the stock certificates mailed to you. Once you have them, they cannot be sold via a few mouse clicks either. Selling gold and silver locally is not difficult. The only part that takes some time is finding who will pay the highest price. Stocks most definitely are not the best investment all the time. It wasn't that long ago (4.5 years, to be exact) that the stock market plummeted 50%, wiping out trillions of dollars worth of stock equity. The metals were hammered too because people were scrambling for cash to cover their short positions or to buy more long positions as stock prices tumbled. During this market crash, cash was definitely king.
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