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The highest relief points on the Type 1 gold dollar are the hair near the coronet. Notice that my coin has the same caracteristic has is said that type one coins suffer with use. Is not a jewelery piece because if you check the mirror picture of the coin is not made with medal orientation.  |
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United States
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This coin was not minted by the US Government. Most obviously, and stated many times, there was never a date punch that resembles the date on your coin. If you refuse to believe those on this board, then send it in for grading and prove us wrong.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Send it in to a TPG already! For anyone to buy it it will need to be slabbed anyway!  |
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Canada
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 with unholyroller, we've spent enough time going over this. You still refuse to accept the learned opinions of some seriously knowledgeable people on this forum, so your challenge is now to prove all of us wrong, and the only way that's going to happen is if we see it certified by PCGS/NGC/ANACS. Good luck with that... |
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United States
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is strange that a guy that would make a counterfeit or a jewelry piece would worrie about his weight, This would be true for a contemporary counterfeit where the counterfeiter is looking to make his money by shorting the amount of gold in the coin. But in the late 50's through the 1960's there was a big business in the middle east making counterfeit US gold coins. At that time it was illegal for US citizens to own gold, but they could own US gold coins made in 1933 or earlier and could bring them into the country simply by declaring them and applying for an import license at customs as they came home. At that time the cost of most common date US gold coins was about two to three times the bullion value, gold dollars significantly more so maybe five to ten times melt. Now a Middle East fake that was off size or weight would be easily spotted, and they were making their money by buying the metal at melt and selling it to tourists at two to three times melt. It was to their advantage to make sure the fakes were precisely the same size and weight as the genuine coins. Quote:
Gold is soft enough that you can leave dents in it when you bite it--it seems to me that a restamp might not show any trace of the old design. Gold isn't quite as soft as you might think. Yes if you really try it is possible to leave a mark on a 900 fine gold coin by biting it, but you will run a VERY good chance of breaking your teeth doing so. They are rare but if you see a double struck gold coin, even using the mints own equipment you will often see traces of the first strike below the second strike. |
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Portugal
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I know this thread has died, but Biokemist referred it to in another thread. Does anyone know what ended up happening?
Edited by The Silver Searcher
01/24/2013 5:45 pm
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I know this thread has died, but Biokemist referred it to in another thread. Does anyone know what ended up happening? Nope. The above was his last post on the forum, although he's visited since. |
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United States
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New Member
Portugal
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New Member
Portugal
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i stop posting because they said that this was impossible to happend so I stop posting
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Valued Member
Canada
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I am no expert on gold dollars. However, there is no doubt in my mind that this coin was NOT made in 1858.
PERHAPS...
The entire date has been altered, which would explain the different serif,
OR,
It is a real coin, but restruck with counterfeit dies,
OR EVEN,
Maybe it is a genuine 1853, but a jeweler has tooled the whole coin to remove wear, and altered the date into and 1858?
Or it could just be a fake.
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New Member
Portugal
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Is strange after a year no certain conclusion with this coin, the weighth is the same as the original, I checked on a jewelery shop
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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so you never sent this in?
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