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Smackdown Xxi => 1 Radiate Portrait + 1 Laureate Portrait

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 Posted 10/20/2012  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
maridvnvm => ummm, I'll let ya change if you want ... but then again, you might always wonder if that was a poor gear-change?

... hmmmm? ... I will allow you to change your photos, "until" the next contestant posts his entries ...

otherwise, your posted-coins will be cast in stone ...

tick-tock, Martin ... tick-tock!!

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 Posted 10/20/2012  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Windchild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My enteries:

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Constantine I as Augustus, AE Follis, Mid 310-Late 312, Group III, Class IV, London
CONSTANTINVS P F AVG
Laureate, cuirassed bust right
COMITI-AVGG N N
Sol, standing facing, radiate head left, chlamys across left shoulder, globe in right hand, whip in left
* in right field
PLN in exergue
21mm x 23mm, 4.24g
RIC VI, 153
Extra: Found in a field near Wimbledon, old find.

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Caracalla, AR Denarius, 212, Rome
ANTONINVS PIVS-AVG BRIT
Laureate head right
P M TR P XV COS III P P
Hercules, nude, standing facing, head left, branch upward in right hand, club and lion skin in left
19mm x 21mm, 3.15g
RIC IV, Part I, 192
Extra: Toned, Old find. Not a rotation error, just a scanner bug.

First Smackdown!!

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10/20/2012 7:14 pm
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 Posted 10/20/2012  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mmmmm => yummy, yummmy!!



Wow Windchild, those are both awesome looking coins!!



... huh? ... but geesh, once again => we're still missing the now infamous first "left-facing" radiate and/or laureate portraits!! (the unicorns!!)

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 Posted 10/20/2012  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
=> hmmm, yah I wasn't sure if you'd have any radiate or laureate Greek coins, but apparently you have depth and you have an auxiliary-tank full of Roman coins!!
Hey Steve! I've got a couple--and I think the Roman laurels are more distinct that on Greeks. I wish I had a Helios coin from Rhodes--someday!
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 Posted 10/20/2012  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Windchild => ummm, I'm gonna give ya credit for the SOL radiate (on the reverse) => but hey, I'm not gonna give ya "first lefty" credit for the left-facing portrait (it must be the "obverse" portrait, rather than the reverse activity random misc portrait) ...

=> oh, but by the way => that is a super-cool SOL reverse!!

... good luck in the voting!!

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10/20/2012 8:36 pm
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 Posted 10/20/2012  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Windchild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This shows how bad my scanner is... The silver Denarius is a dark blue-grey and the follis is very, very dark black. The Follis was apparently a pre-metal detecting find.

Also its not a misc portrait... I choose the coin as it was of a god I haven't studied!

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 Posted 10/20/2012  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augustus1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Caracalla introduced the radiate silver "antoninianus" (we don't know what the ancients called it) in his year XVIII (215 AD). Modern authors think its value was pegged as two denarii, although it has only about half again as much silver as the denarius which continued to be issued. A hundred years ago numismatists were not sure it was a "double" and really, not much evidence has been added in the meantime. Perhaps most cogent is the the dupondius was often radiate and twice the value of the as. Also, the way the original radiate fell out of favor under the following emperors until Gordian III suggests it may have been overvalued and therefore unpopular.

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Here a radiate of Caracalla from the first year of the denomination. Even the lion on the reverse is radiate!

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Here is denarius (laureate) of Caracalla from 213 with reverse type INDVLGENTIAE AVG. This is a reference to his "indulging" the people with some gift. It may be the gift of citizenship which he bestowed in 212 on all the inhabitants of the empire in (possibly so the recently doubled inheritance tax on citizens would apply to more people).

The radiate and laureate denominations occurred side by side through the first years of Gordian III after which the radiate became the dominate denomination until the reform of Diocletian introduced the follis c. 293. .
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 Posted 10/20/2012  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If I read the rules correctly, there can only be one set per contestant. Is that correct?

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 Posted 10/20/2012  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't get greedy, Bing ...

=> yes, just send your A-Team!!

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 Posted 10/20/2012  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bing => there are still no South-Paws ...

I'm just sayin'

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 Posted 10/20/2012  8:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry, augustus1 => I should have stopped and mentioned how absolutely gorgeous your two coins look!!



wow ... there is a plethora of amazing coins in this SMACKDOWN!! (great job so far, everybody!!)
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 Posted 10/20/2012  8:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Gallienus, radiate right

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Domitian, laureate left
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 Posted 10/20/2012  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK. In that case then I will submit two southpaws as Jerry suggested. These may not be my best, but they are left facing and the ones I'm going with for this contest.

1. This one you've seen before.

Augustus AE As, RIC 81 (Tib), struck at Rome, 22-30 AD.

OBV: DIVVS AVGVSTVS PATER, radiate head left
REV: S-C either side of large altar, PROVIDENT in ex.
10.5g, 28mm

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2. Augustus, AE As, RPC 129, struck at Colonia Patricia (Cordoba - Spain), 19/18 - 2 BC

OBV: PERM CAES AVG, laureate head left
REV: COLONIA PATRICIA in two lines in wreath
8.07g, 24 mm


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 Posted 10/20/2012  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fantastic!!

=> great ye-appeal, Doucet (I absolutely love the panther!! ... I have an example, but it pales in comparison)

... awesome coins (good luck, come voting time!!)

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Wow!

Doucet actually threw-in the first lefty, but then Bing followed it up with "two" South-paw winners!!


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