Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. 300,000 items to help build your collection! Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsSpecializing in Modern Numismatics Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Think This One Will Cross

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 21 / Views: 2,764Next Topic
Page: of 2
Bedrock of the Community
Bryan1315's Avatar
United States
14454 Posts
 Posted 11/03/2012  8:31 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
wondering if anyone thinks this one would cross at PCGS with the Reverse being worn smooth like it is. I am guessing it wouldn't matter in this grade and all that would matter is the date and type but wanted to hear all of your opinions

Think-This-One-Will-Cross

Think-This-One-Will-Cross

Think-This-One-Will-Cross
Moderator
Learn More...
SsuperDdave's Avatar
United States
23522 Posts
 Posted 11/03/2012  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think it crosses, without hesitation. That's about as worn as a coin can be and still read the date, nothing on it - not even the planchet voids - look other than original, and if ever I saw a true P01 this is it.

You can't call it "basal." The date is readable. Great coin.
Bedrock of the Community
Bryan1315's Avatar
United States
14454 Posts
 Posted 11/03/2012  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
when I first saw it my thoughts were it will not cross but as I was posting it on here I thought heck I don't see how it could get any worse than a slick Reverse and barely see what date and type the coin is so at this grade it probably will cross since that's all the information they need for a coin to receive this grade. I guess this is about as perfect of a PO-01 as a PO-01 can get.
Moderator
Learn More...
SsuperDdave's Avatar
United States
23522 Posts
 Posted 11/03/2012  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It crosses, brother. Too bad the EAC guys haven't caught the "lowball" thing yet.
Moderator
Learn More...
nickelsearcher's Avatar
United States
15471 Posts
 Posted 11/03/2012  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Basic type and date are there ... it crosses as a PCGS P01.

What a lovely worn out coin.

David
Take a look at my other hobby ... http://www.jk-dk.art
Bedrock of the Community
Bryan1315's Avatar
United States
14454 Posts
 Posted 11/03/2012  11:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would be awesome if it were a Reeded Edge 1795 in PO-01
Pillar of the Community
D0ubl3Eagle's Avatar
United States
5854 Posts
 Posted 11/03/2012  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe it will cross. The pitting may have landed this in a problem holder if it were in a much higher grade but as a PO-1, I don't see why it wouldn't be allowable. I happen to have another another slick just like yours but yours has mine beat.

Think-This-One-Will-Cross

Think-This-One-Will-Cross
Bedrock of the Community
Bryan1315's Avatar
United States
14454 Posts
 Posted 11/12/2012  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe we are going to see if it will cross in a month or so when he gets some of his other coins together to send in with it
Valued Member
nicscoin's Avatar
107 Posts
 Posted 11/12/2012  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nicscoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
yes I think it will cross also..
Pillar of the Community
M0nks's Avatar
United States
1770 Posts
 Posted 11/12/2012  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add M0nks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
nice coin amazing you can still see the date and thats what matters right there
Valued Member
bobbymeru's Avatar
United States
285 Posts
 Posted 11/12/2012  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbymeru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is "cross"? And lowball? I've seen it mentioned a lot today
Pillar of the Community
philadelphian's Avatar
United States
3253 Posts
 Posted 11/12/2012  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I gather from this forum, "lowball" refers to a coin at the bottom end of the grading scale. There are those who specifically pursue them, paradoxically creating a slight premium in value for some coins graded poor, relative to those in the middle. To "cross," a coin is switched from a slab from one grading company to that of another, without a detrimental change in the certified grade.
In attempting to "cross" a coin, a collector may win or lose in the bargain. But as tends to be the case, the grading company always wins. In this case, two grading companies.
Edited by philadelphian
11/12/2012 5:18 pm
Bedrock of the Community
Bryan1315's Avatar
United States
14454 Posts
 Posted 11/12/2012  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the lowball sets is sets that try to get the lowest possible grade for each specific coin in a set. There are registry sets where people try to get the highest graded coins and you will see TOP POP coins for those coins, well you also have people that compete in registry sets that try to get the lowest possible score by making a set of lowball coins. There is no coin gradable lower than PO-01 so that is the grade they are always looking for and believe it or not coins in this grade will sometimes sell for 4-10 times premium because they are the lowest possible grade


Cross is where you have a coin graded by one TPG and you send it to another TPG to get in their holder at the same grade. Usually because of Registry sets or because the other TPG's coins sell for a higher premium than the one the coin is in.


In my opinion a PO-01 is harder to find than a MS coin because it has to be worn almost smooth like this one and still have enough detail to be able to tell what type and what date the coin is and if its to much wear it is ungradable, but if it has to much detail it comes back a FR-02


D0ubl3Eagle, that is an amazing coin you have there as well
Moderator
Learn More...
vermontensium's Avatar
United States
16679 Posts
 Posted 11/13/2012  12:36 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bryan, I don't think you have any worries. This is a PO1 all day long and I'm quite confident PCGS will see it that way as well.
swcoin.ecrater.com
Pillar of the Community
smokeriderdon's Avatar
United States
3755 Posts
 Posted 11/13/2012  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see no reason why it wouldn't cross. As mentioned, its a picture perfect PO1. Though I would not bother. It's in the perfect holder IMO already.

And as Bryan said, just a bit more detail puts the coin at FR02, and then makes it, believe it or not, undesirable for that set. My Liberty Cap would actually be too good for a set like this.

Think-This-One-Will-Cross

Think-This-One-Will-Cross

Because there is still enough detail to see the wreath on the reverse, it's not a slick like the other two, and not a poor coin. Almost though.

I can't reember who, but one member is doing an AG set of CC Morgans. It really is hard to find these low grade coins that still look good and meet the criteria the collector sets. It also makes getting the key coins a lot less expensive. I just sold a FR02 1895O Barber dime. Just in G04 that coin is 375. So that person got the key coin in that series for less than 200. So something to be said for doing it like this.
Edited by smokeriderdon
11/13/2012 12:38 am
Bedrock of the Community
Bryan1315's Avatar
United States
14454 Posts
 Posted 11/13/2012  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Though I would not bother. It's in the perfect holder IMO already.

The only reason we have discussed doing it is if he wants to sell it in a PCGS holder bit can be included in a lowball Registry set and may bring more money
  Previous TopicReplies: 21 / Views: 2,764Next Topic
Page: of 2

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.36 seconds to rattle this change. Forums