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Milk Spots Appearing On Bullion Years Later?

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 Posted 02/24/2013  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wettld2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That seems like a very peculiar method... does anyone know if it actually works?
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 Posted 02/24/2013  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheOne to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't worry about milk mark seriously doesn't mater it's a norm
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 Posted 02/24/2013  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add loonar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can use a clean and very soft white eraser to clean the dirt if you wish. Don't do that to tiny milk spots though, I heard that cleaning would ruin numismatic value of a collectible coin.
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 Posted 02/24/2013  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wettld2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I tried that once and it left tiny scratches on the surface of the coin.... still better then the look of milk spots though. The only reason that I don't do it is because I might end up selling it in the future and I don't want to accidently sell "cleaned" coins.
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 Posted 02/24/2013  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add loonar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
3 or 4 months ago I bought the grizzly coins, exactly look like thehulk's for 38.xx$ each from kitco (spot was 33~34$), cleaned the reverse gently with an eraser, the scratches resulted are barely noticeable. Not all the "spots" were removed because I did not overapply pressure.

I did that because I believed these coins already lost their original numismatic value. Before that I've even ruined a fine cougar using hot water + soap + vinegar combination, when I wiped the solution processed coin with lab wiping paper, the paper became black and the coin was left with heavy scratches. Then I applied some toothpaste on the same coin, no miracle happened but only worse. Because of that I gave up the soda boiling water + aluminum foil idea. On Youtube they used worn circulated silver coins if you have any it might worth a try.
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 Posted 02/24/2013  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anjohl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To chime in here, I have had problems with milk spotting, and as a result, I consider any and all RCM minted one ouncers to be strictly bullion if they are being bought for the long-term. I just cannot trust a mint that does not value quality control and quality in general with a numismatic investment.

The wildlife series was what got me excited in Maple/ounce stacking, and I will buy a Wolf and Bison to complete my personal set, but I won't buy any more for more than S+$3, to flip/resell.

For bullion coins, I am sticking to US Eagles going forward, and maybe Chinese Pandas if the mintages don't climb too high.
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 Posted 02/24/2013  11:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anjohl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also, for long-term investment now, I am buying certified 10+ ounce bars exclusively. They are easier to store in the safe deposit box, and sell at a very small premium over spot. maples are attractive for short-mid term profiteering on spot fluctuations, but they are horrible as an investment vehicle at anything more than S+$2, but that is just my opinion.
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 Posted 02/25/2013  4:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add alphadraconis83 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ loonar: I think putting pure silver (99.99%) in vinegar solution is chemically not a good idea; vinegar is, after all, an acid. I think you only use vinegar solution to clean silver that's plated or an alloy (typically silver plated utensils or silver-copper jewelry). Baking soda and aluminium works because you're replacing the silver ion in tarnished silver with aluminium ions (see equation below).
3 Ag2S + 2 Al = 6 Ag + Al2S3
silver sulfide + aluminum = silver + aluminum sulfide

Anyway, that's my take of things, perhaps more qualified chemists out there can elaborate on this?
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