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Pennies Considered To Be The Keys

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I have never been accused of having a sense of humor before !!

just ask the other Mods ,,Im always the serious one !!

Just because 100's of millions of people call US cents pennies ,,does not change the fact that the US has never minted pennies !!


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Where does the term "penny" come from? Is there a story behind this big controversy?

I understand that the government calls them "cents". Is that the only reason why the term "penny" is wrong? Or is there something more to it?
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My grandfather used to say that pennies are from England and doctors are just practising.
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If you want to add your own 2 cents but I give you a penny for your thoughts, what happened to that other penny?
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Aceman732, I believe that the term penny is derived from the term Pence. It comes from the period before decimalisation when Pounds, Shillings and Pence were utilized. If I remember correctly, there were 12 Pence in a Shilling.

So far as the story about penny vs cents goes, one of our beloved moderators has as mild dislike for the propensity in America to refer to a cent as a penny. Once in awhile, someone (like me) enjoys jabbing him about it. See, he has a great cents of humor.
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About the 55 DD, from the July issue of Coin Values magazine:

"... because there was a shortage of cents caused by the recent Hurricane Diane and because the 20,000 or so doubled die cents had been mixed with that shift's other 10 million freshly minted cents, Mint officials released the coins rather than melting an entire shift's production."
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someone needs to market coin sized planchets with either "RARE" or "Extremely Rare" on them to fill the slots in albums tht won't get filled other wise. To go all out, they could state the year and type like "1913 Liberty nickel, Extremely Rare, 5 Known" or something like that. With all the albums out there there should be a market to be made.
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Suposidly true that Penny came from Pense or maybe Phenning or something like that. However, here in the USA we choose to make our own language and we normally don't care who complains about it. Words like Ain't was at one time something my Mom yelled at me for using but now it's in the dictionary. We call Five cent coins Nickels, not Half Dimes or five cent pieces. Quarters are two bits. A dollar is a buck. We have cars, not automobiles. And there are many, many more. And if that isn't enought, try talking to a teenager and you'll think you landed on another world. People should just accept the fact that we have PENNIES.
As to semi key dates of Lincolns, I find that although most are early S mint coins, there is a scarcity of many other dates in certain conditions. For example I've been searching for a 20D in MS anthing for years and just not available. I find the 15D all over the place in everything except MS anything also. I feel a key date is one you just can't find.
In one of my letters to Whitman I also complained about all the errors in the 2006 edition and received a free Book for my letter. However, I noticed about 99% of my letter was ignored in the 2007 edition.
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Where does the term "penny" come from? Is there a story behind this big controversy?

I often wondered about that myself. The common answer given that it comes from the British Penny or Pence is silly.

Let's see we have a copper coin that is worth one one hundredth of a dollar. Let's nickname it after a silver coin from another country, that hasn't even existed for a 150 years and no one has ever seen, which if it did exist would be worth more than twice as much as our copper one, and that takes 240 pieces to equal their base unit instead of 100.

Now the HALF penny was a copper coin that was roughly equal to the value of the cent, so if we were calling it something based on the British coins we would have called it a halfpence.

So where did the term penny come from? I think I finally found out. New York was one of the most prominent states in the late 18th century and accounted for a great deal of the countries commerce. Now like most of the states they had their own "money of account". But being the biggest many merchants kept their books in New York money of account because it made commerce easier. Like the other states they based their dollar of the Spanish milled dollar. But New York had a theoretical "New York penny" that was worth 90 pennies to the dollar. This meant that a Federal cent was worth .9 pennies. A value much closer to being equal to than a theoretical British Penny.

So here we have a "penny" of the right time frame, value, domestic rather than a that of a recent enemy, and which the businesses are already familiar with using. This is where I believe it where our cent got it's slang name of penny.
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Found this, thought you might find it interesting.

http://www.pennies.org/history/intro.html

Jim
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