Need Your Help With This 1970-S Small Date Penny

This thread has recently been occupied by folks offering examples of NGC mistakes et all ... I get all that concern ... but piling onto a thread by a CCF member does not serve the OP interest.

I suggest we return it to the OP and address his/her original concerns ..

What to do with this obviously misattributed coin?

Hopeful the OP took our advice and returned it to the seller ... looking for an update.

David

Thats cool and I agree this is the OP's thread but it is more than obvious there is something fishy going on with their entire system. I agree send the coin back to the seller and make them refund you in full or get ebay involved. Any legit seller would take the coin back with no questions. I hope the seller realizes that either he/she is involved or there is something very wrong going on with NGC. I think the seller should be brought into this matter and be asked how he came into possession of these coins. If he states he bought them then where did they originate. Everything is trackable these days. This crap needs to stop.

Either way NGC is at fault because they should be looking at the coins before holdering them.

It is more than obvious the seller knows they are actually LD and he thinks he is getting away with it. I am still not happy that NGC would do this and it makes you wonder if they are not just keeping a "really good customer" happy? The first page of his coin listings are 80% NGC graded coins.

Check out this http://boards.collectors-society.co...4537&fpart=1

I know it is off topic but imagine how much these guys are ripping off total newbies to the coin collecting world that don't know what they are buying. The say they are pros but this kind of mistake would never happen to a pro unless it was on purpose.

I remember when I first started collecting coins in the 1980s as a kid. I used Red Book to find values of the common change I was finding. Then I went to the bank one day and asked for a roll of half dollars. Somehow I was lucky enough to get a 1938-D walking half and a few other silver halves before the bank cut me off. I only knew the values that Red Book gave me because that is what the coin dealer had for sale. I had no idea about varieties and would have never known about them if it were not for the internet and some people showing me the way. I still don't know about Half Varieties and many others although I do know they exist. Lots of this info is hidden in books that are not available online yet.

Back to the situation at hand. NGC is at fault for putting these coins into mislabled holders and letting them out of the building. There is no reason not to look at the coins before putting them into the package to send back to the customer.

There's a big difference between what we think and what we can prove. The former is opinion and should be expressed as such; when we blur the line between the two is when I have to come in here with a chainsaw to avoid posters sticking their feet into CCF's mouth. I'm just trying to avoid that eventuality.

NGC has been caught in some egregious errors in the past, and time does not appear to have mitigated their error rate. They're capable and consistent when they get it right, but there seems to be a disconnect between the grading floor and the post-grading processing. It's part of why I wonder about the root cause of this latest series of errors.

And yeah, as has been said here before - why bother attributing if you're not going to stand behind your attribution? That's as much as admitting you're incompetent.

Hummmm....that seller has multiple mis-slabbed 1970-S and yet he sold this?




OK, who is going to believe these have not been searched?

No need to apologize, 7TF - I don't feel like you've crossed any lines. I'd have pounced immediately if I felt otherwise, because this forum means more to me than any single topic or poster. No harm, no foul.

The next step in this process, I believe, is to take the topic to the Collectors Society board. NGC is not nearly so quick as PCGS to whack postings, and if it's worded respectfully I think it'll get a fair hearing.