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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Pillar of the Community
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If thats the coin ( I thought same ) the buyer is gonna be un happy... To me it looks like maybe MS at best .....
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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There are major US auction houses and plenty of good Canadian show auctions to sell a accurately attributed and graded rarity.
Bad pics are going to cause a major risk discount to be applied. Why would any seller do that to themselves?
As for the "SF Far", where are the denticles around the leaf?
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Valued Member
Canada
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It depends. There are an increasing number of scammers out there in all genres on ebay. That said, eBay/PayPal guarantees the purchase, so if it's fake then you'll get your money back. If it's a question of grade, then PCGS would be more of a flag to me than the photos or lack of them, based on comments I've seen around here on over grading of Canadian coins by PCGS. I would actually be more confident if the seller rarely sells coins, or doesn't at all. Some sellers are jacks of all trades, and never take the time to figure out an item's true value. If they deal in high volume, they simply have no time. In that event, the seller may never take close up photos given the type of items they normally sell, and just do the best they can even if the pics hurt the price. You'd have to know what they got it for to know whether or not they're hurt by it - sometimes they pick up a lot in bulk from an estate etc. for a song. Personally, I've had good luck picking up coins in similar listings for next to nothing, that value out in the hundreds of dollars, because others shied away. |
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PS: It would be a red flag to me if the seller normally deals in coins, normally has good photos, and suddenly for the one auction has lousy pics - especially if when queried "has no way to make them better."
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I agree with what the god of the dead just said^, I gamble with smaller denominations but with a sum like that I would not. The current price of that coin is a healthy number, and to possess such a coin but not the equipment to take a decent image of it would raise questions for me. My printer/scanner cost £17.00, that's what I use for my imagery-not much especially if you have high value coinage.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I bid on, and won, this coin. I also won it for significantly less than my maximum bid. Here are photos I took of the coin. I'm not the greatest at grading QEII coins, but the grade fits in my opinion. The plastic is very scuffed. I'll have to get out the PlastX and try buffing this slab and a number of others I have which need some TLC.    |
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sorry poker....that is nowhere near an MS 64 at best AU in my opinion just way to much wear on the poor beaver
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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What you're seeing is some weakness in the reverse strike, not wear from circulation. The lustre is complete on both sides of the coin.
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I think it is a MS-64, but weakly struck. The cameo surface on the Queen is pretty much untouched. Usually, that is the first surface to get dinged with bag marks.
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Pillar of the Community
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I also bid on this coin, but obviously your maximum bid was significantly higher than mine. I think it would make 64, but I'm glad I didn't win it. I want one for my collection, not for resale, If I were to pay MS63 or better money I want a well struck coin. I believe that somewhere down the road collectors will appreciate and graders will value fullness of intended design over mark free fields, and lustre.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
Edited by DBM
03/18/2014 9:02 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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no way I would buy it for BU money, that coin..............ain't NEW
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Unlike our Canadian TPGs PCGS has money riding on the fact that this is an uncirculated coin.
If this is a real coin in a fake holder we got problems.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
Edited by DBM
03/18/2014 9:45 pm
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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That coin cost more to PCGS than the piece is worth. IMHO US TPG cannot grade Canadian coins to Canadian standards. 1953 SF near leaf is only a 20 buck CDN coin full trends. |
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Pacificoin: There is a bit of an optical illusion on the edge with the round plastic and the multisided coin. However, it is unquestionably the SF / Far Leaf type.
DBM: Collector tastes do change sometimes. Similar to how blast white coins were all the rage years ago, and now toned coins often get a bump in grade due to "superior eye appeal" at American TPGs these days. Of course it would be nice to have a mark-free and well struck example in the MS-65 or 66 range. But given the choice between a sharp strike and chattery coin vs a mark-free / one side slightly weakly struck coin, I'd prefer the latter. The obverse on this one is killer.
The other consideration is the amount available. PCGS has only graded 4 of these as mint state, and 9 more in circulated grades. So it's not like one can necessarily wait around for the highest/only MS-65 graded coin (in PCGS plastic) or a "better" example in one of the other 2 MS grade coins if they plan on owning a high grade example of this variety.
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