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87 day newbie here............   Wish I could have loaded a close up pic of the area at 10:00. Have learned by being here on CCF that CENT Cuds are going (selling) at handsome prices. Sooner or later I might want to sell this coin. Is it a Cud? If not, what might it be? I searched ebay for "SOLD" Cuds, and found cents, nickels, dimes, Morgans, Peace, SBA, etc., etc, but no Eisenhower dollars. Zero. Common sense says, there must be some out there? Therefore, I have no idea, what a FMV might be? I might add this area in question on this Dollar, can't be completely "covered" by placing a cent on top of the MIGHTY Ike. A Quarter will cover the area in question. All opinions, as to what it is ... including PMD ... are most welcome. If you think it is a mint error, please offer any help with a fair value. Blast away, Thoughts, Opinions, Econ Value, Any ideas. .......and I thank the CCF  If this thread takes off, I want to add additional information on the find. (This coin was almost dumped-or spent) |
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it is glue A Cud is a specific type of die break that affects the shank and face of a die so a Cud can only emanate from the edge of a coin. Anything else would be an interior die break or die dent/damage. It is also worth mentioning that you are not going to see any die detail at the site of a Cud or die break because that portion of the die is physically missing. Edited by biokemist6
04/30/2014 12:16 pm
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Looks like glue? Put it in some acetone....
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amida17.............. Quote:
Looks like glue? Put it in some acetone.... Thanks for your reply. Not glue. Coin came in a bag, (grungy) and was quiet covered in 2-3 layers of Scotch Tape. So I just pealed off layer after layer. Then I soaked it in water over night. Then I used 1-2 drop of mild soap for another period of time. I was a newbie then, and at that time I was uninformed about acetone. Last night I wrote to CONECA & (begged) for anyone to look at it, and offer any thoughts. I was looking at the list of errors they CAT. With out counting it is over 200. I am selfishly hoping it is some kind of error, with CONECA From a different sight I found this. What are they? How would you CAT them?    Thanks in advance for any thoughts. Fire away! |
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That is a die that has chipped away from the bust design. This happens a lot on the U.S. quarters and nickels. I see it more on the lower profile/single squeezed dies here. Yes I know that coin is Canadian. But it is the same thing.
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COOP.... I just when to CONECA and looked at ( Cud) ... I was referred to DIE BRAKE. To:wit. Quote:
Die break
These are large raised irregular blobs found usually at the design stress points. They are most often found in the fields between the design and the rim. After repeated strikings under tons of pressure, the dies begin to crack. When these cracks meet each other (as in a circle), or when they extend to the rim, the metal contained within the borders of the crack begins to break away from the die itself. The broken piece may not at first be loose enough to fall away. In such a case, the coin shows a depression where the die chip or, if it is large enough, the die break has occurred. It's a keeper (at least for me), and not for sale. Paid a buck, and delighted with it in my error collection. Thanks to all who participated with ideas and opinions |
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I do like the third Queens portrait.....looks kinda like someone socked her in the nose and bloodied it!  Quote:
Last night I wrote to CONECA & (begged) for anyone to look at it, and offer any thoughts Do let us know what they have to say. I still say glue.... |
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Domain, on the CONECA site the term Cud refers you to MAJOR DIE BREAK (not just DIE BREAK). The definition for MAJOR DIE BREAK refers to a piece of a split die breaking loose. This is why a Cud always involves the rim of a coin. |
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admida17............... Quote:
Do let us know what they have to say. I am very hopeful that they will even read my email. It is my thoughts, CONECA is slooooooooow to give free advice. At best I personally think it will weeks ... If they ever respond. Again, your participation is welcomed.  |
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Pyrbob............ Quote:Domain, on the CONECA site the term Cud refers you to MAJOR DIE BREAK (not just DIE BREAK). The definition for MAJOR DIE BREAK refers to a piece of a split die breaking loose. This is why a Cud always involves the rim of a coin. You are 100+% correct. Thank you for participating |
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I did not offer an opinion, I stated a fact. Your coin is most assuredly covered with glue, there is no other explanation because there is no such error that allows you to see perfect die detail underneath it.
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Biochemist6............ Quote:
I did not offer an opinion, I stated a fact. Your coin is most assuredly covered with glue, there is no other explanation because there is no such error that allows you to see perfect die detail underneath it. Thank you kindly for your participation. While I sincerely believe I did removed all the Scotch Tape gunk-junk-goo-glue? ........ I could take one more step ... to bathe it in Acetone? May I please ask in advance, what other steps I might-could take, if Acetone fails to remove anything? As I have said the coin was found COVERED with a few layers of tape. The tape had been on a long time and was hard to get it off. Yeah .... It was in an old bank bag. Thanks Bio |
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You can see the outline of the coin they placed on the glue to create it. Acetone will make quick work of it.
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Question for anyone.............. Looking on the net for Acetone.... Walmart sells 100% ACETONE (nail polish remover) for $2.99 ... and I am sure my wife has it in her stuff. Is that a correct solution ... or do I need a quart(?) ... that is NOT polish remover? Don't want to pay for anything, if nail polish remover is equal. Do I dilute the Acetone? How deep shall I pore the fluid? How long do I soak it? Room Temperature? Do I use any mild (with gloves on) rubbing? Thanks in advance for all the help. |
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You can get the pure acetone you desire at any paint-oriented store, Home Depot, Lowe's, the like. It's a standard chemical for painting uses. All it'll take is a jigger glass large enough to hold the coin - with this much glue to remove, you're going to want to change the bath regularly as stuff will get suspended in the acetone and redeposit itself on the coin if not removed.
I think a quart of acetone should be part of any collector's inventory. For more than this, please Search the Main Coin Forum, because safe usage requires care and we discuss it a lot here. Rather than restate all that stuff yet again, I'd rather you see the words of many different people who have already spoken on the topic.
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