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 Posted 09/21/2014  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are the 1874's


Plain 4








Crosslet 4







When you look at the plain 4 obverse legend, you can easily see how some dies were used well past their prime. In this plain 4 there are die cracks and metal movement in the legend and many details are less distinct than if it was a "strong strike and fresh die" as seen in my 1858 SD cameo piece.

It probably takes a lot of expertise to realize what is a strong strike from a weak strike... and not mistake it for slight wear on the coin. So many weak strikes or worn dies could be mistaken for wear and this is where experienced graders (like Brian Cornwell) can and often do know the difference.

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Nice coins as usual DEVLEC!
What's that next to the 5 on the plain 4?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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Thanks DBM..!!

I looked at that coin also... it must be some type of refection in the 2 sheets of clear as it was in all of the pics taken to get this one sharp good pic,

....but there is nothing actually on the surface of the coin..

I was also very perplexed by that L shaped shadow..

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Here are mine! Not in the same ball League as DEVLEC'S Coins





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viper....Your coins are great as all of these 74's seem to have been struck on very poor dies.
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..and now for the 1875..hope that we get to view a few.

Maybe Randy has a Large Date to add in here..here's hoping ...

This obverse legend has an interesting "G" in GRATIA

..and a triple "C" in CANADA

..and the reverse date certainly is not following any straight line. I can't imagine a gang punch being used here..

If they had punched the 5 any lower,...they would have had to place it on the right side of the leaves...

Any comments appreciated..











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It is not very nice but it's all mine! Do you think it would get a grade of G4?




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G4 for sure IMO. The reverse is quite clear, offsetting the wear at 7 o'clock on the obverse.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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They made fishscales in 75? Sorry, think I have to wait to 80 to post a photo or two.
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heres my large date.. I missed the first bunch but I'm here now.. sorry pics are not the best



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Nice large date artdio. What grade would you give it?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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If any of you have silvers that are past the present date,..then please post them anyway. I just want to see more in here if possible..


artdio... I'm so happy to see a Large Date in here now...good job...


I'm no grading expert,..but don't be fooled.. because a lot of these past early dates were often weakly struck..and with poor quality dies.

We're told to grade at ~4x and right now we're looking at ~100X at least,.. so every slight blemish is magnified way out of proportion..

The true grade might be a touch higher than your first guess..
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Im going on the conservative side at F12 - F15...But if it went to NNC its an EF for sure In hand its much nicer and as you say Blown up this much really makes some of them look not the best.
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Okay I will try to catch up. First my 1858 large and small date







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My 1870 raised and flat edge







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