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For these types of questionable encapsulated coins I'd always be very interested in studying a cross sectional close-up shot of the seam of the slab for evidence of tampering: changing out the genuine coin...
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Forum Dad
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I'm sure that happens, but I'd bet there's far more completely fake slabs.
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I'm glad they refunded the seller and updated their website. I anticipated that NGC would yank that coin ASAP, so I saved the pictures for educational purposes. I'll 'archive' them here in this post so that others in the future will know about that which we were talking. BTW - cracking open legit slabs and swapping the coin would be near impossible without detection. They are sonically sealed with a machine that runs about $6000 used. I'd say that is a real improbability with this particular coin. Who would waste that much time and effort on a details XF coin, to replace it with an XF details counterfeit?     Edited by Drsandman2
10/15/2014 10:41 pm
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It is threads like these that makes me VERY grateful that the CCF exists. I am NOT an expert on Indian Head cents, and even less so on how to pick dud slabs. |
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Drsandman ... "You da man!"  Great learning thread, this. I'd have been fooled on this one, too. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. Pooling our collective knowledge is what makes the CCF so great. |
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Drsandman thank you, don't know how I missed this thread until now. Thank you for the valuable lesson on this. Makes you aware of being vigilant on all coin purchases - even slabbed coins these days.
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That is one impressive fake; from a surface viewpoint.
Question? On a real 1864 L, isn't the stone on the necklace at the front of the neck usually more pronounced? When I look at lower grade 64s, I look for the pointy bust and the larger stone.
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I'd always be very interested in studying a cross sectional close-up shot of the seam of the slab for evidence of tampering: changing out the genuine coin... In this case though we knew that the coin had not been switched out because the pictures on the NGC certificate verification website showed the same coin. It would have had to have been switched out while still at NGC between the grading and the encapsulation. |
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