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This, of course, holds true for the baby golden dollars sitting in storage too. I assume there are more golden dollars in storage than Ikes. Is this correct? Anyone know?
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Darth Quote: This, of course, holds true for the baby golden dollars sitting in storage too. I assume there are more golden dollars in storage than Ikes. Is this correct? Anyone know? There was (about) 600,000,000 IKE minted. IMO, the gold dollars are trash. Does anyone know the MINT count on gold dollars? My guess is they are mostly in CI vaults.
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In the year 2000 both mints produced a total of 1,286,056,000 of the Sacagawea dollars one can easily see this dwarfs the 600 million figure given by Domain. Add in the 2001, 2009-2011 mintage numbers and you get a grant total of 1,649,063,500. Yes, that's 1 billion of these baby dollars sitting in Fed vaults, bank vaults, etc.
Edited by MeadowviewCollector 01/04/2015 2:44 pm
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Quote:Circulation Strike Eisenhower dollar Mintages 1971 47,799,000 1971-D 68,587,424 1972 75,890,000 1972-D 92,548,511 1973 1,769,258 1973-D 1,769,258 1974 27,366,000 1974-D 45,517,000 1976 Type 1 4,019,000 1976-D Type 1 21,048,710 1976 Type 2 113,318,000 1976-D Type 2 82,179,564 1977 12,596,000 1977-D 32,983,006 1978 25,702,000 1978-D 33,102,890 Uncirculated Eisenhower Silver Dollar Mintages 1971-S 6,868,530 1972-S 2,193,056 1973-S 1,883,140 1974-S 1,900,156 1976-S 4,908,319 Proof Eisenhower dollar Mintages 1971-S Silver 4,265,234 1972-S Silver 1,811,631 1973-S Clad 2,760,339 1973-S Silver 1,013,646 1974-S Clad 2,612,568 1974-S Silver 1,306,579 1976-S Clad Type 1 2,845,450 1976-S Clad Type 2 4,149,730 1976-S Silver 3,998,621 1977-S 3,251,152 1978-S 3,127,781 Eisenhower dollar Mintages Eisenhower dollars were struck for circulation at the Philadelphia and Denver Mints from 1971 to 1978. The highest mintage occurred in 1976, when more than 200 million coins were struck with the Bicentennial reverse design. The lowest mintages occurred in 1973 when the Eisenhower dollar was only issued as part of the annual Mint Set. A number of different versions of the coins were struck for collectors during the short duration of the series. In total, about 49 million collector coins were struck at the San Francisco Mint, including uncirculated and proof coins struck in a 40% silver or copper nickel clad. The silver coins were sold individually from 1971 to 1974 and as part of a 3 coin set in 1976. The clad proof coins were struck for inclusion in the annual proof set from 1973 to 1978. The tables below present the mintage figures for Eisenhower dollars including circulation strikes, uncirculated silver dollars, and proof coins. I am really guilty of NOT doing the math. If my estimate is goofy, then sorry. 
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So, excluding the 1973 Cu-Ni clad issues and all the silver uncirculated and proof issues, the total comes to 682,657,105 business strike Eisenhower dollars. Of course, you would also have to subtract the number of Cu-Ni business strikes that were included in mint sets from 1973-1978. The Ikes being stored at the Fed would be those that were placed in bank bags. Also, you would need to subtract the 500 business strike Ikes that I have in my personal monster box.  So, who wants to take a guess as to how many are being stored? I think it MAY be somewhere between 400-500 million. It's just a shot in the dark. I simply have no idea. It's probably higher since the Ike never really circulated, perhaps closer to 500 million or more. Obviously, the number of golden dollars DWARF the number of Ikes. I didn't know it was to that extent, though. I was just thinking, what if all ( or the vast majority) of Ikes at the Fed were toned like this:  
Edited by Darth Morgan 01/04/2015 4:24 pm
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Darth ~`~`~` DARTH `~`~`~ Darth`~`~`~  Quote: I was just thinking, what if all ( or the vast majority) of Ikes at the Fed were toned like this: Please tell me this is ONE of your monster box of IKEs
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Quote: Please tell me this is ONE of your monster box of IKEs Ohhhhh. . . how I wish it was. 
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I'd be surprised if the government has more than a couple hundred million in stock and this seems a liberal estimate. About 40% of Ikes have been destroyed in fire and flood or exported to foreign countries. Most of these exportd coins are in bad condition because theyt were received in change between 1971 and 1981 by tourists many came from casinoes. Collectors hold a small percentage of the mintage so the bulk is sitting in sock drawers and change jars. Many are held by very "casual" collecrs and these tend to be poor examples as well and not cared for. Attrition isn't extremely high still but a dollar just isn't what it used to be so it is increasing. The FED claimed to be running low on Ikes in 1979 which is why they minted the SBA's. Don't let mint set mintages mislead you. Most of these sets (~55 to 65%) of the Ike dates have been destroyed and most of the coins were spent. Most of the spent coins are in FED storage and nearly pristine or with very light circulation.
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Quote: About 40% of Ikes have been destroyed in fire and flood or exported to foreign countries. Could you elaborate, please? I'm not doubting you. It's just that I've never heard of this many Ikes being destroyed- roughly 275 million? Is there a verifiable source for this information? I'm really curious about the flood you mentioned. Quote:The FED claimed to be running low on Ikes in 1979 which is why they minted the SBA's. Is this claim in a report of some sort? Again, I only ask honestly. If there is information to be learned about the history of the Ike dollar, then I want to know it.  I have always been under the impression that the SBA dollar was created in an effort to get a dollar coin to circulate, not that they needed more. They had minted all those Ike dollars, but no one (relatively speaking) was using them in commerce. Quote: Don't let mint set mintages mislead you. Most of these sets (~55 to 65%) of the Ike dates have been destroyed I have read that any unsold 1973 mint sets were destroyed by the mint. Did this hold true for any unsold annual mint sets back then? The mint apparently had bicentennial sets still available for sale into the 1980's. I think I remember jbuck stating this in another thread. Sorry if it wasn't you, jbuck. This topic has really got me interested in digging deeper into the history of this series.
Edited by Darth Morgan 01/04/2015 7:41 pm
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Quote: Could you elaborate, please? I'm not doubting you. It's just that I've never heard of this many Ikes being destroyed- roughly 275 million? Is there a verifiable source for this information? I'm really curious about the flood you mentioned. Every year there are hundreds of thousands of houses and structures burned or flooded. These structures house Ikes and most don't survive the event. They are also lost and destroyed in many other ways from ship wrecks to earthquakes and volcanos. They become damaged and are thrown out or recycled by the FED. Some few coins go home to foreign countries and sit in junk boxes in Cairo or fountains in Paris. Nothing survives except pyramids. Quote:Is this claim in a report of some sort? Again, I only ask honestly. If there is information to be learned about the history of the Ike dollar, then I want to know it. I have always been under the impression that the SBA dollar was created in an effort to get a dollar coin to circulate, not that they needed more. They had minted all those Ike dollars, but no one (relatively speaking) was using them in commerce. As I recall they didn't specifically state they were running low on Ikes. But each year they'd make more to keep enough in reserve to keep up with demand. Demand for Ikes was aenemic but it did exist. Many were handed out by the post office and some were used in closed loops such as casinos. They circulated very poorly and after the bicentennial began to be seen less and less in commerce. I got my last one at a post office in 1980. The mintages in '77 and '78 were quite low because supplies were adequate and only a few were needed. I don't know that these haven't been flowing back to the FED for decades but seriously doubt they had a good supply if they minted more in '78 and most people hoard the coins. I just see no reason to presume they have significant supplies at all. I know for a fact at least one FED branch has none on site and I doubt their contractors are willing to sit on large supplies of them because of costs of storage, insurance, and security. I simply doubt there are large numbers that belong to the FED or mint. Quote: I have read that any unsold 1973 mint sets were destroyed by the mint. Did this hold true for any unsold annual mint sets back then? I don't know. 1981 sets were destroyed and probably all dates had at least minor destruction by the mint. Quote: The mint apparently had bicentennial sets still available for sale into the 1980's. I think I remember jbuck stating this in another thread. Sorry if it wasn't you, jbuck. These were special issue 1976 silver sets stamped out on high speed presses. None of these would exist in storage except a handful of strays. The vast majority of this entire issue was melted by the mint for silver in 1981. Quote: This topic has really got me interested in digging deeper into the history of this series. It's an interesting series. It has numerous key dates even in nice ch MS-64, varieties, special issues, special mint packaging, and even major types. It also has a fascinating history celebrating Ike and the Apollo XI mission of 1969.
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Thanks, cladking. I appreciate you sharing from your experience. Quite interesting.
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cladking  Quote: I know for a fact at least one FED branch has none on site Please share info, Which Branch? Dallas? St. Louis? Houston? Other? Thanks Domain555
Edited by Domain555 01/05/2015 06:46 am
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i have tried on my end to get large dollar coin bags, asked at the three major bank names, and credit unions, I even called brinks got through to coin room where they gave me hope, but all failed I never received any. I was going to try to build a set by years, but mainly search for silver...so I dont think they are available in my location...
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coinsrus1000  Quote: i have tried on my end to get large dollar coin bags, asked at the three major bank names, and credit unions, I even called brinks got through to coin room where they gave me hope, but all failed I never received any. I was going to try to build a set by years, but mainly search for silver...so I dont think they are available in my location Can you widen your search to close by areas? Thanks, Domain555
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