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5 Chu minted 581 to 618 - Schjoeth#253 / Mitchiner#5490+

Obverse: "Wu Chu" either side of square hole which has a rim only on the right side.
Reverse: Plain, but rim around the square hole.

This is the last type of Wu Chu coinage issued, it was started by emperor Wen Ti (581-604) of the Sui dynasty.
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We saw some really cool coins in the life of Khusro II.

Try this guy on for size. I wanna see who might have done business with these guys!

Kobadien, Northern Tokharistan,
Xionite Huns
AR Drachm 30 mm x 2.87 grams
Struck AD 680-720
Obverse: Crowned Bust of Peroz flanked by Tamghas- Countermark, Forepart horse, Circular symbol, Human head wearing pom pom hat-Cursive Bactrian Greek- ALChOON
Reverse: Zoroastrian Fire Altar flanked by two attendents.Countermark Reclining Camel, Human head wearing Satrapal Cap.
ref# cf.Gobl 72/73
Note: Rare, Silk Road Coin.


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Rather than showing the Byzantine contemporaries, here from the upcoming Arabic tribes:


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AE Fals of the "Caliph Series" (~670-700) of Arab-Byzantine coinage - cf.Mitchiner#15

This was the second set of imitation coinage, the first being the "Emperor Series" but those predate 680.
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And here another one, less Byzantine example:

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AE Fals of the "Caliph Series" as well, this cf.Mitchiner#16-19
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man, this time frame is a weak spot in my collection. this is the only thing I have that could fit, and it's stretching it a bit..


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kai yuan tong bao
tang china
621-907 ad

reverse pic is horrible even for me, and there isn't much to see....so i'll spare you.
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Good to see someone else posting Chinese coins.
Btw, this is Schjoeth#312 and Mitchiner#3395 (if it does not have any mark on the reverse) - the first coin of the type which remained in vogue in China till the 20th century, replacing the Wu Chu type.
This coins started to get minted by emperor Kao Tsu (618-626) of the T'ang dynasty.
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hey med,
here is the reverse pic...very bad...but you can see it does have a "moon" mark on the reverse.

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Oh Chris you have to reshoot the coin on the new table. The coin has me intrigued but I must bash your photo. Oh and Med, lovely coins but you have to do something about those flips, its drives me bonkers. Like, "Oh look at this really exotic coin everyone will love, but you cant truly appreciate it 'cuz of my plastic. Bah, change those to 2x2 flips bruh.
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Somehow that is called a nailmark in the descriptions.
This one is Schjoeth#315 / Mitchiner#3391+ and attributed to the reign of Kao Tsu, ie the minting period was 621-626.
Mine is on the list to be posted in the right decade.
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Oh and Med, lovely coins but you have to do something about those flips, its drives me bonkers


Sorry, but cannot afford to re-house all my coins.
But to not insult your eyes, I will refrain from posting examples of the "Reformed Omayyad coinage" which commenced in 698 and lasted to 749.
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I am surprised I am not seeing any Byzantine Emperors from this time.
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Got a few but wanted to leave this for others - all mine are unfortunately in 'horrible' flips.
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....but the coins are wonderful so its a fair trade off.
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Sorry, but cannot afford to re-house all my coins.
Maybe getting a camera with macro would be easier? So you won't have to scan them anymore.
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Okay, here a more interesting (in my opinion) type of reformed Omayyad (or Umayyad) coinage:


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AE Fals minted in Al Ramla - Mitchiner#87

Obverse: Start of Kalima (ie 'There is no god but God') around palm tree
Reverse: "Al Ramla" around crescent

In general reformed Omayyad coinage was minted from ~698-749. Since the Al Ramla is most likely the current Israeli city Ramla, which was founded in the early 8th century and became an administrative hub of the Omayyads in ~716, this coin was most likely minted ~716-749.
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