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 Posted 06/04/2015  07:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srs77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a couple more proof shots..

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 Posted 06/04/2015  08:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gymcoachdon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SRS, what is your setup for taking those proofs? I have also admired the pictures of your wheat cents.
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Nice shots ford, I hope I can get there.
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 Posted 06/04/2015  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srs77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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SRS, what is your setup for taking those proofs? I have also admired the pictures of your wheat cents.


I do things way different than most here but admittedly Photography is a hobby for me and not just about coins. My setup is way more expensive than most 'probably'.

I have a Pentax K5 with a Tamron 90mm macro lens attached. I use a Vanguard 284CT tripod with the camera pointing at a 90 degree angle to my subject coin.

Now, here is where I differ from just about all. I actually use photographic strobes for my lighting. Overkill? Absolutely but it's what I already have for portrait photography so I use them for this as well.

The lights are on 10 foot poles but I only extend them about 7 feet above my subject coin (2 lights). I adjust the power of the lights through a trigger I use to fire them. My lights are Elinchrom D-Lite 400W/s RX 4.

I am tethered to my PC using PKTether for Pentax Cameras and am able to adjust f-stop and all other camera operations from my pc.

Again, this is way overkill for coin photography but it's what I already invested in for other areas of photography so it's what I use.

Thanks for the compliments, it's appreciated!
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srs77 first hello like your setup question if you don't mind my asking.do you use the nominal setting on these lights or just the standard. 120V 100W modeling lamp must be swapped out when using the unit in nominal 230V electrical environments. what type of plugin do you have if you use nominal. the regular setting where can one find these light bulbs.do they have a certain name. if this works really well I can build this. I have and electrical background. if you would not mind could you tell me the name on the bulbs voltage and wattage. the reason I am asking because I am getting ready to built a halogen set up . this looks like it might be cooler with temperature. thank you have a great day
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 Posted 06/04/2015  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srs77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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srs77 first hello like your setup question if you don't mind my asking.do you use the nominal setting on these lights or just the standard. 120V 100W modeling lamp must be swapped out when using the unit in nominal 230V electrical environments. what type of plugin do you have if you use nominal. the regular setting where can one find these light bulbs.do they have a certain name. if this works really well I can build this. I have and electrical background. if you would not mind could you tell me the name on the bulbs voltage and wattage. the reason I am asking because I am getting ready to built a halogen set up . this looks like it might be cooler with temperature. thank you have a great day


I rarely use just the modeling lamps. 99% of the time I'm using the strobes. These lights have both a modeling lamp and a strobe. The modeling lamps are 100 Watt 120V lamps.

They cast a yellow light like most incandescent bulbs. So if I use the modeling lamps I have to adjust my white balance accordingly.

As in my earlier post these are Elinchrome D-Lite RX4's. Here is a link to Adorama's site for these lights http://www.adorama.com/EL20852KIT.h...gAaQod5SMAVg

They are not cheap.. As you'll see they're about $950.00 just for the lights... Although they do come with a trigger soft boxes and light stands. It's a set not just a single light.

I do have a small investment in my photography equipment but I've done a few weddings and I do a lot of scenic photography. The coin stuff is just for me as the wife doesn't care too much about the coins.

I have done some product photography for others and that's gone well so I also have a light table. I could go on but that's pretty much it...

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 Posted 06/04/2015  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Before folks start down the road of thinking that you need $950 lights to shoot coins, let me assure you that you don't. What you do need is some patience to set up whatever lights you use for best effect. You can do just as well with $20 worth of Jansjos and some diffusion as any other lighting setup, and the Jansjos run cool enough to do whatever type of diffusion you need for your particular situation. Srs77 happens to have the lights and strobes already available, and uses them well for his coin shots.
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 Posted 06/05/2015  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Lighting isn't about using one specific dictated technique, it's about using what you have effectively and srs77 certainly seems to be doing that.

For the longest time I used Halogen goosenecks and some of my favorite shots are from that time. Exposures were more like 1/500 with 100w of halogen blaring onto the coin, but good results came of it. Look at Mark Goodman's earlier shooting; he used a single small table lamp with a 75w incandescent bulb, and shot images with no flaws.

There's a lot of different ways to make all of this work. We teach the techniques we do because they're cheap, simple and easy to learn. They aren't "The One Way" to become a good coin photographer. Humans are imaginative creatures, and these are some pretty capable chunks of optical technology we're using. The possibilities are endless.
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Couldn't have said it any better SsuperDdave. There are a million different ways to get good shots and rmpsrmps is correct in that if I were just trying to get into photographing coins only my setup is NOT what I'd recommend. It's just not cost effective and there are other more affordable ways to get the same and in cases better results than I'm using.

As stated, photography for me goes way beyond just my coins and if others have the same desires in photography then my solution or one like it might work for them as well.

That's why this site is so important if you ask me. You can provide many different solutions to coin photography that should satisfy just about everyone's taste..
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I read everything you guys post here. I was admiring the photos of those coins. I have been watching these new coin shooters. I also have been learning from them. I have followed the lead from you guys. I have lately been roll searching with my camera. as SD said it gets real easy after while. I can go through a roll in no time. the twoonie I have been finding with errors will shock you. I want to learn every thing I can from you guys. I want to thank you guys for all your help and direction. I will soon be ready to start posting pics again. again thank you all have a great one.
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Excellent rocky...look forward to seeing the pics! And also would like to hear more about searching with the camera...what process do you use?...Ray
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sorry gymcoach to jump on your thread yes ray I am searching with a canon camera bellows with a elnikkor 75mm cranked clear out in live view. its a lot faster then with my micro scope. plus all I have to do is watch the monitor. ray did you see the warning in the Nikon manual. they down want a person to leave the Nikon camera on in liveview for extended amounts of time. as the Nikon will heat up and could catch fire. my problem is what is and extended amount of time. I have found a wonderful diffuser. it is called muslim cloth bleached white fabric. its works great on the janjo lights. it is the pures white you can buy. it cost pennies and square meter will do you for ever. you can buy it at a fabric store get a chance try it I am using it and it is great. have a great one
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ay did you see the warning in the Nikon manual. they down want a person to leave the Nikon camera on in liveview for extended amounts of time. as the Nikon will heat up and could catch fire. my problem is what is and extended amount of time.


Don't worry about it. The camera has sensors and software for that; it will warn you when it's heating up, and then shut itself down if it gets too hot.
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