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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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Jaobler...question...how can the surface of the coin exhibit signs of circulation without the higher details exhibiting at least some signs also?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: how can the surface of the coin exhibit signs of circulation without the higher details exhibiting at least some signs also? Good question, and I'm not sure I have the whole answer. My understanding is that the luster on flat surfaces (the fields) is very sensitive to any disruption. A level of friction that would not soften any details on the coin high points can nevertheless change the field surfaces enough that the luster is altered. When I see bright original luster in protected areas (such as between letters in the legends) but muted, darkened, or otherwise altered luster in the open field right next to the protected areas it strongly suggests the coin has seen some level of friction. The most likely cause of that friction is brief circulation. That being said, such luster disturbance may not be enough for a grading service to withhold a mint state grade. The friction I think I see in your photos might be so slight in-hand that your coin will in fact get an MS grade from a TPG. I'll be very interested to learn how this coin was graded by the professionals.
Edited by Jaobler 05/31/2015 11:47 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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I think what your calling luster disturbance is the reflection of the slab plastic in the photo. This coin is a gem beyond doubt. MS-65+
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 What is it?
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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I have fouind that most CCF members grade gold rather hard. In that light, MS63. Excellent rim edges for such a large, soft gold coin.
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Moderator
 United States
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It has the appearance of an MS63 coin but it appears there is friction on the highest point. I have to agree with AU58. Any gold is good gold :-)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Doesn't a coin that has been cleaned that is UNC give off those certain signs like the luster isn't quite as there as this one is showing...even though it is fairly mark free? Just running ideas off the top of my head. Maybe it is the way the coin had its picture taken? I do not know for sure.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Quote: What is it? Lol, well I'm trying not to taint the waters yet. The coin is scheduled for delivery today. Fingers crossed my Wife is home to sign for the coin when the postwoman comes. If so, then I'll take my photos and post them tonight, and then we can better discuss what we think the TPG may grade the coin. After getting some feedback from forum members then I'll post how it's currently graded. Thanks for the comments and information thus far!
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Valued Member
 United States
278 Posts |
Coin arrived today. It has really strong cartwheel luster, and is more 'gold' than the sellers photos (the sellers photos were more lemon yellow). Give me your grading thoughts after looking at my photos and then after I get some good input I'll post how it's currently graded. We can then discuss opinions on what I should do (resubmit, hold, sell), if anything at all. Thanks again and see below:  
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Pillar of the Community
United States
946 Posts |
Oh man those new pictures I see hairlines throughout ...I think it has been rubbed at one point.
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Valued Member
 United States
278 Posts |
I see what you're seeing. Two things I would add are, these don't look like hairlines that I would associate to rubbing. I'm not saying I'm correct in this, but right now, I don't feel uncomfortable with some of the lines. In fact, some of those can be attributed to some small scratches in it's slab. The second thing is that these photos are very large and it's easy to micro grade compared to the first photos.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
It does look like a slider with minimal contact marks. It may have graded MS62 and that's my market-grade for it. As many have noted AU58 is likely the technical grade.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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These new pics better show the coin IMO. I previously said MS-65, but I think that if it is infact MS, it will grade 63 or 64 instead.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The suspense man!  Awesome pics by the way. 
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