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Edited by canadian-varieties 06/15/2015 3:52 pm
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I find that subtle changes in the rotational orientation of photographs have a tendency to make the eye think certain 9s as being a bit higher or lower when they are actually the same. To me all those links are the same.
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What I find incredible about the 1929 "high 9" is the massive disconnect between the EF and AU
an EF can be had for $20-$30...while an AU goes for $500 !
I can't think of any other variety with this kind of disconnect in "market price"....
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1929 High 9s with any particular red are very scarce. I have had three pass through my hands (one remains glued firmly in place!). The other two were better than the one in the auction the other day and, while they achieved nice prices, sold for less than that one.
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Here's the four from Canadain-varieties's links. A little easier to compare this way. 
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If you take an index card or piece of paper and align it so that the bottom of the serifs on the 1 and 2 are aligned along the edge of the paper, you will see that all 4 of them are different (where the paper intersects them). Although I don't collect small cents (only large) I don't think that this is a variety at all. I think that the 9's were hand-punched in (like the 1859's) from working die blanks that started as 192. There is also a spacing diffference between the 2 and the 9 on all of them. It's minute, but measureable. I think that there are all kinds of degree of "high" for '29.
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 There are also small rotational differences to be found as well -- for instance compare the 9's in pictures 1 & 4 in pennyman's post. There are many different die pairs out there for those who have the patience and inclination to look...
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The designation for the '29 and the subsequent pricing differences for this (or these) varieties may go the same way as it did for the 1896 large cents and the "far 6". There got to be 4-5 different fars accepted and nearly as many "nears", so ICCS and other TPG's stopped certifying them entirely, although it's still listed in Trends. Ar last count, I think that I had at least 12 different positions/rotationals/spacings for 6. Many other LC dates are the same .. with the final digit(s) handpunched in, you run out of adjectives to describe how near, far, high, low any date is.
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..and still another 29.. ...besides the 9 placement changes, it's also interesting to take note of the different sizes of the loops in the many 9's showing here. I don't think that wear can account for all of the differences here..  . .
Edited by DEVLEC 06/16/2015 10:14 am
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Quote: I don't think that wear can account for all of the differences here.. Nor will I attempt to... I intend to show a normal (business strike) low 9 and an example of the High, Far 9 (the two end members, as I mentioned earlier). The intent is for the variety, not a proper die study....
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I will take a wild guess and say the 1962 harp would fall under overcleaned die or something?
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For one , I stay right away from these date spacing varieties like the 1929 cent ,1896 Large cent, 1932 nickel and the like. In my opinion anyone throwing big bucks at this stuff, needs a reality check. Too flaky and arbitrary . What's certified and graded one month is pariah the next. Look at all of the date spacing in the fifty cents series. Interesting but hardly huge pricing differences.
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The 1932 far 2 is legit and a very interesting variety that will catch on one day...
the 1896 far 6 probably will never find favour with collectors.
But the 1929 high 9 isn't going away
Edited by canadian-varieties 06/18/2015 02:35 am
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I posted this picture some time ago and only showed the 29 which does not give a proper scan. Look at my coin and the last 9 is higher than the first 9. I tried to straighten it up as this also helps. 
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Sounds like another Book I will like to have in my collection
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