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1952-D Penny Weight Is 2 Grams

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 Posted 02/02/2016  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add uruman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
, good job BlueSolo
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 Posted 02/02/2016  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add koinpro to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like an "acid coin" to me.
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 Posted 02/02/2016  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kevin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The picture of that penny has a different tone and the size of a dime in roundness you can't even see any of the letters,my penny is more the size of a penny,i have read how they make a planchet and how some times they are the wrong size and like a said before everything I keep seeing is a different tone and as far as reading goes,you can read all you want until you do an experiment yourself and see and feel the coin then you really can't say something is one way or another way,it sucks that people have found so many ways to alter coins until about 3 months ago I never got on the internet,and there is alot of info out there but I know a picture is different than having it in hand.It is like I have some strong die clashes I was going to show but I guess there is a way to fake them to?
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 Posted 02/02/2016  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kevin... calm down.

You asked for our experience and now that it's been offered - by SEVERAL quite knowledgeable people (at least one of whom invested quite a lot of time). We get that it's disappointing to think you've found something and learn it's not special. We've all been there.

But when you don't like the answers and all you do is argue, what happens next is that these same experts just ignore you. It can get very lonely here if nobody bothers to respond to your questions.
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 Posted 02/02/2016  10:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kevin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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 Posted 02/02/2016  10:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kevin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a 2 gram acid dipped penny,the tone is a light brown with rusty red look,there is no rim,on the 1952 you can still feel a rim.plus the toning is darker and the same.
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 Posted 02/02/2016  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The current patination of the coin is completely unrelated to how it was damaged in the past. There are many things that can affect the color of copper and it most certainly re-patinates after cleaning/stripping/damage. Chemical erosion has distinct diagnostic characteristics but it is simply not possible for every acid damaged coin to be an identical clone of each other as you seem to expect- different acids, different concentrations, different exposure times, different coin compositions all have an affect on the final appearance.
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 Posted 02/02/2016  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
But when you don't like the answers and all you do is argue, what happens next is that these same experts just ignore you.


I think they already have.
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 Posted 02/02/2016  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add deathwaterkeg2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
oh hey, I have something similar, but it's only worth face.

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 Posted 02/02/2016  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kevin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When you approach people on a conversation of any thing you can say the picture of a coin looks like it could be altered,here are some sites to check and if you think it still might be authenticate then send it off and have it checked by people who have the equipment to check it,and experts and grading companies will not say if something is genuine with just a picture but here everyone will,without coin in hand try to say for sure something is or is not instead of saying may or may not,if it was really that easy to tell everything from a picture you wouldn't have to mail anything off.I may not have handled enough genuine planchet errors to tell for sure but how many people have.these faked error type coins are evidently meant to look like real errors so really with out proper testing how can any one say for sure.thank you for the people who gave there opinions and let me know about this acid thing,the coin books and variety books that I have read told more about how to tell double dies not how to alter coins.
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 Posted 02/02/2016  1:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kevin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have a problem with an opinion that it may be or may not be I have a problem with people thinking they are for sure about something that a picture is I have showed different pictures and compared things,these pictures that people have posted doesn't mention the weight of the coins they have showed,i am sure the longer you leave a coin in acid the weight will change more and the surface will change more,but I showed 2 different coins the 1952 and then the second coin both weighing 2 grams.
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 Posted 02/02/2016  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Kevin. You're thread drew the attention of one of the top gurus in our field. You can rest assured on his opinion alone that what you have is the result of a science experiment.

If it's any consolation I have several coins I set aside thinking I might have something. The last couple of years here and the shared knowledge and experience has reshaped my thinking. I am grateful. Some were very patient with me especially at the start. I'm glad they had stamina. And I'm a better hunter as a result. So I hope you do find enjoyment in the learning process beyond this immediate disappointment. You'll end up on the 'winning' side more often if you do. And remember: it's not a competition unless you make it one.
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 Posted 02/02/2016  2:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kevin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you rackster I appreciate your help,i like this forum to a point but some people reply to things with out reading like some one said I asked for help,when all I listed was 1952-D penny wrong weight and thickness I thought It could be a wrong planchet size or split planchet but at no time said for sure,then acid was brought up,i didn't know about acid so I started reading and looking at pictures to see if anything looked like I had and weighed the same so by everything I was looking at with out proper equipment to test it with I keep,my options opened especially when people try to say something is with out holding a coin in there hand or showing proof that they have dealt with wrong planchets on a daily basis but can only go by what I see,it isn't like I was trying to sell the coin or mislead someone into buying it I was just showing it as something I had came across and what I thought which was my opinion of what it could be.there is a right way to respond to things some people know how while others are more pushy make since to me and I will hold my options open.
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 Posted 02/02/2016  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kevin43 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also would like to thank everyone who sent me sites to go to it may take me some time but I will check them out.
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 Posted 02/02/2016  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add seal006 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have to understand, you came in here like a banshee. This is a fairly closeknit community. While we do welcome newcomers, I think we all can agree, we do not take kindly to those who refuse to listen to reason. Many people not only gave you logical answers to your coins in question, but also took the time to explain their analogy. You come in claiming years of experience, but seem to stumble on some basic fundamentals. Then you claim experts do not agree on one of the most popular die varieties of the modern era, yet offer nothing to back up that claim. You seem quite convinced at what you have. Many of the people who have answered your post have had very similar coins that you have displayed. Those people have posted those coins on here before and were told the exact thing they are telling you. That is experience, and it is also free.If you truly want to learn, this is a great place to do that. If you are convinced you are right and everyone else is wrong, spend the money and send them in. If you are right, come back and post the results. We will all congratulate you and learn something in the process. If you are wrong, you just wasted your money when the answers you needed were free right here all along.

I do not claim to be an expert, by any stretch of the imagination. When it comes to errors, I know very little, but I am learning. As far as doubled dies and RPMs, I have quite the education. I know having a coin in hand is the best way to truthfully judge a coin. But I have spent years studying photos of said vareties as well. You learn to look fore things like shadowing and the coin aa a whole to make your determinations. I gave you an unbias observation of your 1993, and you have yet to respond to it. Just understand everyone on here likes to help, and none of us have a thing to gain by telling you one thing or another. Not a thing.
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