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My 1909-? Lincoln Cent

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Have seen on the Internet crusty coins put in the freezer


Interesting. Thanks! I just got it out of the deep freeze for an hour and then ran it under hot water (still in ziplock bag). Then, back to the toothpicks. The scraping is causing abrasions on the metal, but there is a bit of reveal here. I'm nervous to try it on the identifying locations. The material on the surface is greener than the underlying material, and it is really difficult to get off.

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I think that 1) as is the coin is worthless, other than a oddity. 2) you could use this as a great experiment on preservation.

Even if this comes out and is a 1909s or even a vdb, it is worthless now.

keep track of what you do, and images and you could have a really good story.
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If the reverse is any indication, I think it might actually be a fairly well preserved coin down there under all that powder. (As much as a corroded coin can be "well preserved", anyway). Might be a VF details here, easily.
I wouldn't be so sure it's an 1909, however.
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It's like watching a dinosaur egg hatch!

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Give the cent another soak for several hours & then back in the freezer for a day and see if more green rust comes off without too much toothpick action. Good Luck - results so far look promising. If it is a 1909-s vdb then it is worth something regardless of its condition....
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Whoa, I think that's the most corrosion I've ever seen on a Lincoln. This coin is a goner, I wouldn't spend any time on it personally....into the junk pile.
Myself, I agree.

However, it could be fun to experiment.
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A few more freezer attempts, and many, many toothpicks. Progress so far:

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This is like slowly unwrapping a chocolate bar to see if there is a Golden Ticket.
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It looks to me like the surface is getting scratched/abraided...
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This is like slowly unwrapping a chocolate bar to see if there is a Golden Ticket.


I still don't understand how Charlie's bedridden grandfather was able to jump around and dance once that Golden Ticket was found?


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However, it could be fun to experiment.


I agree jbuck. If it were mine, I'd have it soaking in VC, olive oil, WD40 during the day. And scrubbing it with an old toothbrush when I got home from work.
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Sorry, Did I forget to mention patience is advised for a more favorable outcome? Beginning to get a bit scratch up. Thanks Doug.
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I have to chime in.
The green corrosion is CuSO4, which could be solvable in acid like vinegar. Copper itself is not reactive with acid. So soak in acid overnight in acid will strip away all corrosion including patina. Let it recolor over time. At least you may recover the coin in a reasonable shape not scratches beyond no value left. And it is easy and cheap.
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A few more freezer attempts, and many, many toothpicks. Progress so far:
Okay, I am impressed.
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And, my wife's skepticism about this whole venture turned out - once again - to be correct. The 0 fooled me through the green encrustation (which I took to be a 9):

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My take:

1. Thanks, everyone, for the suggestions.


2. I am surprised that the green encrustation comes off and leaves the coin surface is remarkably well-preserved. On the other hand, the encrustation is really, really hard. Reminds me of cement.


3. For me, a 1920 cent isn't a bad find. I'm a low-end collector.


4.I thought I saw a mint-mark through the green at one point (along with a VDB). Strange visions!


5. I still need a 1909 from circulation for my folder. (I did find 1910 over the weekend!)


6. Now, for my next project (If there are small children nearby, please avert their gaze, it is not pretty, but perhaps it is the 1909!):
















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