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1972 Quarter Struck Over 1964 Silver Quarter

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 Posted 04/23/2008  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you have a picture of it and can't post it to the forum shoot me an attachment to this addy

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Hi Graceoutcast. I tried last night to take a picture and post, but could not get the coin to come in clear. One of the other members also said that it really would not be a good representation (the pic), as if the coin were actually silver plated, you could not determine that in a photo...so... All I (we) can hope for is that someone near by me who is a forum regular come take a look...so that you all can call him/her crazy too for thinking this thing is really silver (just kidding;P).
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Send an email to Susan at CoinCommunity dot com and let her know the next time you're coming through Dover. We're just off Rt 13 less than a mile from the southern border of Dover.
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eel as you know bobby131313 and Susan are the owners of this forum and the ones I mentioned in you other thread to help you sell the rest of your coins, so if you could let them examine the coins then they could also get good pictures of the coin you want to show here on the forum and post those as well for you
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NOW WE'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE !....HOORAAAY !....
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I will contact them! Thanks guys, and sorry if the topic has been stagnant to some.
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this is one of the most intriguing topics I have ever read on this forum. I will DEFINITELY stay tuned for the report back in the visual inspection.
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If it's real then it's worth much more than $1000. Have you tried getting it slabbed by PCGS/NGC/ANACS/IGC? If not, I would recommend that. If your afraid of having it lost in the mail, you can find where there's a large coin show near you and they probably will the grading service there and they can slab it for you there.


Now, I'm not trying to be negative or anything, I hope you do have a silver '72 but how do we know this isn't a quarter that came as an additional bonus with the Littleton auction of walking liberties?
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Morgantype... I'm glad to see the topic interests you so much. I was not (as) aware as many of you guys would have been when I initially saw it in my dads collection. I knew the 1964 was the last year for silver, but I also know there were so many variations of so many different coins (i.e. steel penny, and the significance of finding a copper one, etc...). So...my instincts were correct...that if I was offered $1000.00 so quickly, there must be more value...

Amazon99... you, and anyone else has a right to be skeptical...of me, and this coin! None of you know me; my perception could be wildly skewed of what this coin actually is. I'm NOT a true hobbyist with regard to coins. Though I've tried to the best of my ability to "prove" that I do know what a silver quarter is compared to a clad, I can still appreciate every-one's skepticism. As for your reference to the Littleton auction...I don't know what that is. So...it may be possible that is this coins' origin. All I know is that a reputable organization offered a lot of money for it, so that said something to me...

I will place the coin in a safe place during my trip to DE next week, and hope to meet with this forum's Gods in the Dover area. Again, I want to thank you all for your interest and responses...and I want to give back to all who can and will appreciate the information and fascination surrounding this coin. :D
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I'm definitely looking forward to meeting you AND your silver quarter. It is possible that you have a coin that was struck on a wrong planchet. If by visual inspection and weight, it appears that the coin truly is silver, then we will strongly recommend getting it authenticated. I have a PCGS membership, so we could submit it for you there if you like.

Please email me and I'll send you my phone numbers so that you can reach me when you're ready.
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As for your reference to the Littleton auction...I don't know what that is.


It was a reference that a week or two ago someone came on here claiming they went to a yard sale and bought an expensive amount of coins for next to nothing and that the person used to work for Littleton(which is a coin story). It was BS. If your meeting Susan to see it, then your gaining some credibility.
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Hi again Susan. I sent you an email...I hope you got it. Let me know!
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What does it weigh?

Your odds are poor since there were no silver planchets being used for other countries at that time. It's not impossible for a silver quarter to fall out of the machinery or the rafters after six years but then you need to explain why there are no others. If you had some more info it might be more credible. It's possible you talked to someone very inexperienced at Heritage who simply didn't recognize a plated coin.
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Hi Cladking. I would think the same way if I were you. Not being able to see this coin makes it very difficult for me (again, NOT a coin enthusiast), to make the claim believable. I think the "clink" test helps to sorta' prove(?) the fact(?) that the coin is truly a silver planchet. It's "music" is no different than that of, say a 1964 quarter when gently dropped onto another coin.

As for the inexperienced Heritage guy...hmmm He was the vice president of the company. Is it possible they would hire a man at that capacity who would not be saavy? I mean...you would think a job, or career like numismatics (where values are a science, and rarities are their expertise) would make strong requisite that the president, and/or VP possess the ability to have at least a fair amount of knowledge at their forte. Not trying to be a smarty here... (well...maybe I am... a little... for fun :P ) But let's assume for a minute this VP really pulled the wool over Heritages eyes when they handed him the ~$250,000.00/year job: He offered me $1000.00 for the coin! Wow...think about it.

Again... I am familiar enough with clad vs silver coins. I know what plating is, and understand the process of how plating works (1983 penny base metal zinc w/ copper plate). I was a pipefitter and dealt with braze rod. I know about alloys... I welded stainless steel, aluminum, and carbon steel. I studied a little bit of metallurgy as a prerequisite course for my B.S. Degree; I have a good metals background.

This IS a silver quarter planchet that was stamped in 1972, simply stated. I am meeting with the forum "mom and dad" next week, and hopefully they will be able to post their interpretation of the coin with more authority than obviously I can.

I'd like to just say again, I truly appreciate your skepticisms; I would be no different if someone were telling me a falsity which involved my area of expertise...especially if that person openly admitted their lack of (in depth)knowledge in it. Know that I am not upset with anyone, and am truly enjoying discussing the coin. My frustration only lies within the fact that I do know metals pretty well, and this is the only "proof" I can offer you at this juncture. Sorry for the book! :)
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Quit dropping silver coins on each other.

You can drop the coin by itself onto a wood table top and hear all the difference.
Probably even better, because if you drop an unknown coin against a known metal, the difference in metals could be misleading.
Drop a silver* cull on a table, then drop a clad from your pocket.
You will hear all you need.

That said, if you are dealing with a rare coin, it is probably better to not even drop it on a table. But that is far prefered to metal to metal banging.


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